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You are kidding, I hope. Windows 7? Windows Phone 7?

MSFT's legacy is such folks are tired of anything preceded by the word "Windows."

When I google "windows" "msft" I immediately see "patches," "security," and "iPhone" hits.

I get the feeling you haven't used either of them. Oh well, ignorance is bliss I guess.
 
Sounds good Mr Jobs - hope your health gets better soon
Good vision and product philosophy
wish more companies would think this way
and do things this way
 
I remember how everyone screamed like mad when Jobs decided to remove floppy drives from macs. This is just a simple example of giving progress a kick in the pants. But of course some people will tell you this would have happened anyway so Jobs doesn't get credit. Right. Years of complaints, sales of external drives by nervous users, and windows machines that continued to include the drive for some time give me the impression this one change would have been a slow weening period of over a decade had Jobs not made his decision.
 
I've seen much and do you even realize that the UI on the iOS device is so good no one really ever talks about how smooth the views animate, how smooth the scrolling is or how quickly things get done smoothly? Everyone is now on apple's case about dual processors, mega retina screen resolutions, and the list goes on but it takes super hard work and amazing creativity to make something so complex so simple. There isn't one single Android device in the making that is as smooth as the iPhone. NONE.

This is something that most Android users just don't realize, probably because many haven't even used one, just compared it on paper. The spec sheet for one of the latest Droids with dual cores actually mentioned in the spec sheet something like "allowing smooth scrolling". Really? You need dual cores? My 1st Gen iPod Touch scrolls smooth as butter, just as well (from what I've seen) as the iPhone 4 and infinitely better than any Android or my Pre (I love you Pre but you are so choppy). And it did this 3 YEARS AGO! It's what makes just using it a joy. The screen and the display fall away and it truly starts to feel like you're physically moving something. It has yet to be copied.
 
Jailbreaking is SOFTWARE based, so if the hardware is damaged, it doesn't have anything to do with the SOFTWARE, so therefore, apple should still honor warranties for jailbroken iPhones. A little collaboration with the customer to find out how the device broke would be easy. Whatever, I personally don't care, as I have the original 2g iPhone on tmobile.

I really wanted to comment on this particular thought. Just because jailbreaking is software based, doesn't mean that it can break hardware. Let's say that you install an app to a jailbroken iPhone that causes it to overheat for some reason ... should Apple honor the warranty on that? Of course not.
 
Love him or hate him, Jobs is technology's visionary. A modern day Walt Disney. Both share the same meticulous attention to detail. It's the key to their success.

When Jobs leaves Apple, it will never be the same. You cannot replace him.

Get well soon. :apple:
 
He may be a good business man, but he and apple has really lost focus since iOS. I want him to stop trying to control his customers. Who cares if people jailbreak, or repair their own devices, or voiding warranties. And this new pentalobe screw for the iPhone 4? Just another way to control their customers.

Jailbreaking is SOFTWARE based, so if the hardware is damaged, it doesn't have anything to do with the SOFTWARE, so therefore, apple should still honor warranties for jailbroken iPhones. A little collaboration with the customer to find out how the device broke would be easy. Whatever, I personally don't care, as I have the original 2g iPhone on tmobile.
Except, modifying the software can damage the hardware. Most commonly, you're talking about bricking a router or dvd player when installing unofficial firmware. But there's also the possibility of running parts out of design spec and other low level stuff that can damage hardware, as unlikely as that may be. So, while I think I should be able to do whatever I want with my own hardware, it's completely reasonable for Apple to void the warranty. They have a warranty on a product that will do what they advertise it to do, not whatever you can bend, stretch and manipulate it into doing.
 
I remember how everyone screamed like mad when Jobs decided to remove floppy drives from macs.
Do you remember that he replaced them with zip drives because that was going to be the future? (And also because you could charge a premium for them?) Floppies did die out a few years later, but I'm not sure that the mac getting rid of them led to their obsolescence at all.

Jobs is an absolutely brilliant product architect. He has an unmatched vision for how things should look, and how things should work...and most importantly, he does not suffer from the engineer's need to add everything possible to a device simply because you can. It takes a lot of discipline to do this (as it is so easy to do wrong), and the highly unusual ability to see the forest despite the trees. (Although he's not God and occasionally takes this too far, i.e., 2d mouse button).

More importantly, Jobs is in the happy position of living long enough for technology to catch up to his design ideas: while the NeXT computer *was* ahead of its time, it also cost $10,000 in 1990. Contrast that to iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc. All of the requisite technology for these products already existed, but Jobs was the one to see that current manufacturers didn't understand at all what should be done with the technology, nor how the software should be designed that runs the technology. And that's his real genius.

PS - The Ford quote is apocryphal. Ford didn't invent the car; they had been around for 30 years when he opened his first plant. Ford's innovation made cars much cheaper, and simultaneously enabled him to produce enough to meet the demand. But if Ford had asked his customers what they wanted, they would probably have said "cheaper cars." Which was what he gave them. (Followed by "cars in a color other than black," which he did not give them. :D)
 
Love Him or Hate Him....

You have to respect him.

Steve is a true "visionary". And it is HIS vision that has made Apple the innovator that just about everyone else...either tries to either emulate (e.g. Google) or imitate (e.g. MS).

The "faster horse" comment sums up the fact that most people's "vision" is limited to the world as seen thru their "rear view mirror".

Thanks for everything Steve and I hope you can get your health back and find happiness....whether with or without Apple.
 
Not Quite....

All kidding aside. Hundreds of years from now he will be looked at as a visionary. Not unlike edison or franklin. I can't thank him enough

I certainly hope you meant Tesla and not Edison. Compared to Nikola Tesla, Edison was a "hobbyist". Tesla single handedly invented the modern electrical system that we still use today, as well as many other heretofore unknown and revolutionary technology. He is the closest example of "pure genius" that ever lived as he was not only able to visualize and create new products that had never existed before, but in a way that engineers could apply them to bettering humanity. As an electrical engineer, he is the single most respected inventor in the history of the world.

And yes, I agree SJ will be remembered in this sort of light for "changing the world", just like NT.
 
Do you remember that he replaced them with zip drives because that was going to be the future? (And also because you could charge a premium for them?) Floppies did die out a few years later, but I'm not sure that the mac getting rid of them led to their obsolescence at all.

Jobs is an absolutely brilliant product architect. He has an unmatched vision for how things should look, and how things should work...and most importantly, he does not suffer from the engineer's need to add everything possible to a device simply because you can. It takes a lot of discipline to do this (as it is so easy to do wrong), and the highly unusual ability to see the forest despite the trees. (Although he's not God and occasionally takes this too far, i.e., 2d mouse button).

More importantly, Jobs is in the happy position of living long enough for technology to catch up to his design ideas: while the NeXT computer *was* ahead of its time, it also cost $10,000 in 1990. Contrast that to iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc. All of the requisite technology for these products already existed, but Jobs was the one to see that current manufacturers didn't understand at all what should be done with the technology, nor how the software should be designed that runs the technology. And that's his real genius.

PS - The Ford quote is apocryphal. Ford didn't invent the car; they had been around for 30 years when he opened his first plant. Ford's innovation made cars much cheaper, and simultaneously enabled him to produce enough to meet the demand. But if Ford had asked his customers what they wanted, they would probably have said "cheaper cars." Which was what he gave them. (Followed by "cars in a color other than black," which he did not give them. :D)

The G4 towers had zip drives as an option. I bought one. The imacs did not.

I think a lot of people believe Ford invented the car. LOL
 
haha i love how steve says he thinks its good to listen to customers, but then in the same sentence pretty much says "but not really". And in all honesty, the customers dont know whats best, they're not the innovators, and customer feedback should be taken with a grain of salt.
Customers vote with their paychecks, not with their focus group feedbacks. Apple takes a design decision not based on feedback on the core ideas themselves, but the products these ideas create.
 
I remember how everyone screamed like mad when Jobs decided to remove floppy drives from macs. This is just a simple example of giving progress a kick in the pants. But of course some people will tell you this would have happened anyway so Jobs doesn't get credit. Right. Years of complaints, sales of external drives by nervous users, and windows machines that continued to include the drive for some time give me the impression this one change would have been a slow weening period of over a decade had Jobs not made his decision.

We still use Floppy Disks at work.
 
I think the iphone had to come before the ipad because of the spectre of the Newton. The decision to pursue the phone first had more to due with collective public psychology and marketing than technology or practicality.

We still use Floppy Disks at work.

Some old Brooker NMR machines have 8" floppy disks.
 
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Makes me sad. Not because of what may become of Apple, but because this seems a man is saying goodbye to his family. Mr. Jobs has had his personal life and health a topic for discussion beyond the tech industry. It must not have been easy, especially for his family. I hate to state this, and sadly I'm not often wrong with my gut instincts, I have the strong sense this is the beginning of his retirement. Jobs may transition his next mentor to helm his other family, Apple. I hope this is for the right reasons, to enjoy time with his family and not because he's seriously ill.

Mr. Jobs has done so much at a time when most people would never have survived his health conditions or in the very least would have kept working hard. Jobs is proof anything is possible if you work hard, have the courage of your convictions and above all keep a positive attitude. Business aside, there is a lesson to be learned there.
 
Don't know if this post is trolling, massive inspiration or just sarcasm.

One of the latter....

The Dalí museum is actually rather moving - it seems very natural (not macabre) that the man is memorialized surrounded by the things that he created.


I don't expect, nor do I think Santa Clara County nor the State of California, would allow any form of entombment in a corporate campus. California has very strict cemetery, burial and entombment regulations compared to the rest of the country.

Remember that Jobs is a Buddhist. "Cremation of dead bodies is one of major aspects of Buddhism, it allows the soul to quit the body and to go to hell or heaven in order to wait to the next reincarnation." (link)

California's laws on handling ashes are much looser, in particular to scatter the ashes you seldom need more than the permission of the property owner.

I think that having a contemplative memorial garden on campus would be a fitting tribute - and completely natural that some ashes be scattered in a setting like that, surrounded by the Apple that Steve built and loved.

I've been involved in a small number of "scattering parties", where the deceased has requested that the ashes be scattered at favorite spots. These have been at ski areas, favorite hiking trails, the garden where someone was married, or even at a scuba diving site. (For example, half of Jerry Garcia's ashes were scattered under the Golden Gate Bridge, the other half in the Ganges River. (link))


Talking about Steve Jobs death outside of his immediate family before he passes is insulting and deplorable.

"On the contrary of foreign countries, the funeral ceremony is not a sad event. Everybody talks. For Buddhist people, death is only a passage to the next life." (first link)
 
I think the iphone had to come before the ipad because of the spectre of the Newton. The decision to pursue the phone first had more to due with collective public psychology and marketing than technology or practicality.

Exactly. At the time, I gather more people would have been interested in a mobile device with more functionality than an iPad. Tying the iPod line and iPhone into the ITMS with music, applications and finally entertainment increased hardware sales and strengthened Apple's technology beyond the Mac OS X platform to Windows OS users. The iPod -> iPhone -> iPad seem logical progressions in a strong business model. The iPad was developed around 2003-2004, so Apple spent a good amount of time flushing out a 5-10 year business map.

Reflecting, Jobs thinks long term by careful examination of the market, what people may want, plans a long term model, product design/development, and slowly releases a concession of products over the years that lead to the final goal: a stronger overall business. Some critique Apple is slow at adapting new tech, I was one of them. Yet I understand now, it's not about the newest tech, it's about the implementation of it and perfecting it. Would a professional chef rush out a signature course without spending the time necessary to perfect it? Perhaps given Jobs' philosophy, he's more of an artist that is concerned about the end user experience than about pushing out Blu-Ray and OLED displays.
 
Mr. Jobs has done so much at a time when most people would never have survived his health conditions or in the very least would have kept working hard.

He's in a great position compared to others.

With his wealth, he is able to buy top notch care and fly anywhere to get transplants. He can also can stop working anytime he wishes.

These things are usually beyond other people, who often must continue working to support their families through treatment... and even right up to the end.
 
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