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That would be illegal under GDPR but for some reason they only seem to go after small players, so who knows
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This is well documented and based around the like button and general internet tracking. This is the type of thing that Apple (and other companies if you research it) are dead against and why they are generally considered a better choice for privacy.

If you close your account they MUST delete their data on you. (EU citizen here - ymmv) If they collect their data sans account, then it’s shady and it’s you who must combat it.
I have been using the internet since 1994 and as a programmer for dynamic-driven websites done in C++ / then C# since 1996. I don't see or have any issue with people targeting things I like. I welcome it because I don't want an ad for something I will never use. I think everyone is getting way too uptight lately with privacy.

Trust me no one data that is online will ever be completely scrubbed. So why bother complaining when they are giving you ads for music movies etc that you like.
 
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I have been using the internet since 1944 and as a programmer for dynamic-driven websites done c++ / then C# since 1996. I see and have no issue with people targeting things I like. I welcome it because I don't want an ad for something I will never use. I think every one is getting way too uptight lately with privacy.
You have used the internet since 1944? Wow. Impressive.

It’s not about targeted ads. It’s about ghost profiles. Or even permanently stored profiles which never get deleted. But primarily it’s about massive companies gathering everything they can about you and flogging it off as if it’s their own stuff to sell - whether or not you give them the info voluntary
 
You have used the internet since 1944? Wow. Impressive.

It’s not about targeted ads. It’s about ghost profiles. Or even permanently stored profiles which never get deleted. But primarily it’s about massive companies gathering everything they can about you and flogging it off as if it’s their own stuff to sell - whether or not you give them the info voluntary
Typo. 1994. For me you touch the keyboard and get online that is your consent. Yellow pages used to list out every address in America and the phone number and gave it to every house in the country. Same thing.
 
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For me you touch the keyboard and get online that is your consent. Yellow pages used to list out every address in America and the phone number and gave it to every house in the country. Same thing.

One could opt out of being listed in the phone book but still use it. Surely one that has been around since 1944 or 1994 remembers the term "unlisted number".

No where near the same thing as the phone book did not build a sophisticated database on your every move, purchase, email, web search, etc.
 
One could opt out of being listed in the phone book but still use it.

Surely one that has been around since 1944 or 1994 remembers the term "unlisted number".
Course I do! I didn't know anyone with enough money to get one or cared.

Look I am not here to fight. I get it the EU is Hyper-sensative about privacy. Honestly, anyone I know in or out of the tech world just doesn't care in the states (I am sure some do just not people I know). Just trying to understand why?
 
Typo. 1994. For me you touch the keyboard and get online that is your consent. Yellow pages used to list out every address in America and the phone number and gave it to every house in the country. Same thing.
It’s not really the same thing. If you give your details then fine. If you’re willing to let your basic details out then fine. To not have an account on Facebook, but due to their massive user base, have them be able to not only work out who you are, but know your interests and searches - in real time - and then sell that info, is nefarious at best. It should be illegal. It’s not even on the same planet as the phone book or the yellow pages.
 
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For me you touch the keyboard and get online that is your consent.
That's the type of logic men have used to force themselves onto women.

"If she's wearing a skimpy outfit that shows off her body/exposes certain body parts, then that is her consent. Why else would she wear something like that if she didn't want it?"

Just because someone does X doesn't mean they consent or should be subjected to Y.
 
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A bit nit picky, but could they use consistent casing in their menus? Kind of sloppy. It’s not like this is an app from a hobbyist developer…

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Look I am not here to fight with anyone. I get it the EU is Hyper-sensitive about privacy. Honestly, anyone I know in or out of the tech world just doesn't care in the states (I am sure some do just not people I know).

Just trying to understand why? I mean they have to get something out of you using their servers, etc....nothing is free. People who use ad blockers, etc are criminals to me. Steeling from a website. I have known ever since myspace, BBS boards, forums, etc that is what you get for free access (trade-off)...again could care less.

If someone wants to know everything about you they will find it with or without the internet ever being created.
 
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Look I am not here to fight with anyone. I get it the EU is Hyper-sensitive about privacy. Honestly, anyone I know in or out of the tech world just doesn't care in the states (I am sure some do just not people I know).

Just trying to understand why? I mean they have to get something out of you using their servers, etc....nothing is free. People who use ad blockers, etc are criminals to me. Steeling from a website. I have known ever since myspace, BBS boards, forums, etc that is what you get for free access (trade-off)...again could care less.

If someone wants to know everything about you they will find it with or without the internet ever being created.
I get your stance. But it’s not the point. The fact any company can track you and your potentially vey private searches (got itchy balls and wondering why?) - well Facebook and others knows this about you. You never have had to logged in to them for them to know. They then can match your location and name with their users and work out from there who your relatives are and your relationships and your friends. Then they predict things about you and then they sell it to the highest bidder for a lot of money - and it just goes on and on. This should be illegal. It’s overreach. And it’s for for their profit solely. There is no way that this can be just, even if you personally don’t mind.
 
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Typo. 1994. For me you touch the keyboard and get online that is your consent. Yellow pages used to list out every address in America and the phone number and gave it to every house in the country. Same thing.

Here in Germany you are technically not allowed to even put our colleagues birthdays on the team calendar unless we have their consent in written form and signed with an option to revoke it any time.
 
Admittedly, years ago, but I tried to make a second FaceBook profile that was sort of anonymous for a little project I was working on. I decided against it and 'deleted' the account. However, some weeks later I was logging on to my main account on a different device, a message popped up offering to restore my deleted account and it had everything still in there. They hadn't deleted anything.

That's pretty much when I realized just how data hungry and immoral these guys were.
while deleting your account you are informed that the account will be just hidden for 30 days and only after then deleted, if you log in during this period everything will be there
 
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while deleting your account you are informed that the account will be just hidden for 30 days and only after then deleted, if you log in during this period everything will be there

This was around 2011 so they must have updated it. At the time I'm quite sure they said it was deleted and remember being shocked it was still there.
 
Just trying to understand why?

How can you have no issue whatsoever with companies collecting the following information on you and selling it for profit to brokers that use it to complete a nearly perfect picture of you?

1) Every single place you take your phone (collected by your carrier)
2) Every single web search and site you visit (collected by at least your ISP and probably your search engine)
3) Every single purchase (collected by each site and sold)
4) Every single email (collected by the individual service)

And on top of that:


Now, all of this data is being collected and now the broker gets hacked, all of your private information is now in the wild where it can be exploited by bad actors. Could be something as simple as your contact info being used to open financial accounts in your name or could be something as bad as your search history being publicized to your employer, spouse, family, etc. Maybe as @cupcakes2000 stated, next time you switch jobs and need insurance the company will ask you about your "itchy balls". Or perhaps your car insurance goes up because your insurance company knows you speed on the highway, how did they discover that... you installed their app of course!

To quote great Rick Sanchez "don't look at another man's portal gun history... we call go to weird places".
 
Early in 2018, Mark Zuckerberg admitted in a congressional hearing that Facebook collects information on people who are not Facebook users. They have profiles for people who never created one, and you seriously think they are going to delete a profile full of information they own because you clicked a button?
That's very useful information to share, especially considering that Facebook/Meta also own Instagram.

However, I don't like the part where you said "and you seriously think…". That sarcasm is unnecessary; it's written as if giving me that specific (and very useful) evidence means that I knew it retroactively (I didn't) when I made my initial comment. You could replace those words with "so it's doubtful that…" and it wouldn't have been rude, nor taken away from your compelling argument.
 
That's the type of logic men have used to force themselves onto women.

"If she's wearing a skimpy outfit that shows off her body/exposes certain body parts, then that is her consent. Why else would she wear something like that if she didn't want it?"

Just because someone does X doesn't mean they consent or should be subjected to Y.

Forcing yourself on a woman (or man for that matter) is quite different than creating an account and choosing not to read the TOS.

I’d think using ANY website without reading the TOS or privacy policy is tantamount to consent.
 
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That's very useful information to share, especially considering that Facebook/Meta also own Instagram.

However, I don't like the part where you said "and you seriously think…". That sarcasm is unnecessary; it's written as if giving me that specific (and very useful) evidence means that I knew it retroactively (I didn't) when I made my initial comment. You could replace those words with "so it's doubtful that…" and it wouldn't have been rude, nor taken away from your compelling argument.
Fair point.

if you sensed anger or disdain, I meant to direct it at at Facebook, not you.
 
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