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No thank you, ill keep IG for pics thats i want to keep and SC for things that i want to dissapear...
 
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I don't get this new obsession with stuff that vanishes forever.

Do we not want to save cool things to look back on them later anymore? Nostalgia is a wonderful feeling; I love finding stuff I posted online 15 years ago. If I'd been using Snapchat like services back then, there would be nothing!

Snapchat is great to share stuff "as it happens" but is mostly too crappy to have posted forever. Do u ever go back into your facebook timeline and think ... Omg
 
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D@mn Instagram
It used to be so good, CLEAN and SIMPLE. Then they added d@mn videos and other ****.

Stop it! Let Snapchat be the ****** mess it is.

I agree with your viewpoint that Instagram should just stick to being Instagram, albeit with a little less of a salty attitude.

Also, in what way is snapchat a mess?
 
I agree with your viewpoint that Instagram should just stick to being Instagram, albeit with a little less of a salty attitude.

Also, in what way is snapchat a mess?

Sorry for my saltiness, I just really liked when IG was clean and simple.

When I say snapchat is a mess, I mean their UI is a mess, it's crazy. Mess also as in all he filters and crazy things you can do with it.
 
So Mark steals an idea he likes from a competitor and calls it his own....isn't this how Facebook was founded?
 
I miss the "good old days" when an app did one thing and did it well. If you wanted to do something else, then you downloaded a different app. Nowadays, everything has to be a features smorgasbord in order to steal users and revenue from each other.

What got me was when Instagram added the option to post non-square photos or videos. I always thought the 1:1 aspect for posts was its raison d'être, forcing some semblance of creativity in a otherwise mindless void of duck-faces and hot-dog legs. It seems it was just a way to make adverts easier to display.

This Snapchat thing just seems unnecessary.
 
I got a "bug fixes and performance improvements" update for Instagram yesterday. However, I still don't have that feature, so i think the recent app update doesn't have anything to do with this new "stories" feature.

Like every Facebook and Instagram update, they do it server side rather than app side. This allows them to push out the update to small groups at a time rather than everyone at once. With over a billion active users, pushing out a feature to everyone can be problematic. Doing smaller groups at a time makes a lot more sense at the scale they're on.
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I miss the "good old days" when an app did one thing and did it well. If you wanted to do something else, then you downloaded a different app. Nowadays, everything has to be a features smorgasbord in order to steal users and revenue from each other.

I bet you also hated the DVD player because it meant changing from old VHS tapes and you still use a flashlight app rather than the function built into iOS. :rolleyes:

No, most people don't want single trick apps, that's why their popularity has fallen off completely since the App Store came around in 2008.
 
So that was the only difference between Instagram and Snapchat? What innovation!
 
People like being able to share content with friends (perhaps family as well) without having to put too much thought into, "should I really share this? How does this make me look? Who will see this later down the road?" Since it disappears, it's not as big of a deal. I believe this appeals more to my demographic (college-aged). I am in graduate school, but have friends from undergrad who now have very respectable jobs with lots of responsibility and importance when it comes to public image, but oh boy should you see their snapchat stories on the weekends. It's hilarious.
Which is funny considering anything shared can be screen-capped and saved for later blackmailing... ;)
 
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Snapchat is on fire right now and this what happens, other Social Media sites typically follow the leader per say.

Snapchat and Instagram are two apps that I've never gotten into.... maybe I will once a get a new phone, with a faster, better camera. My aging iPhone 4 is now just a basic tool for me, lacking in snappy performance and high-quality photos.
 
But can you make your cat shoot freaking laser beams out of its eyes?

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Snapchat turned down Facebook's $3,000,000,000 offer to buy them out. Now Facebook is planning to destroy them. Will Facebook fail to capture their market because they're no longer cool with the kids? Will the founders of Snapchat regret their greed since they have problems monetizing their platform? Find out next year on DOES ANYBODY ACTUALLY CARE.
 
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Snapchat turned down Facebook's $3,000,000,000 offer to buy them out. Now Facebook is planning to destroy them. Will Facebook fail to capture their market because they're no longer cool with the kids? Will the founders of Snapchat regret their greed since they have problems monetizing their platform? Find out next year on DOES ANYBODY ACTUALLY CARE.

I guess some people will care for about 24 hours, and then the caring will disappear altogether.
 
People like being able to share content with friends (perhaps family as well) without having to put too much thought into, "should I really share this? How does this make me look? Who will see this later down the road?" Since it disappears, it's not as big of a deal. I believe this appeals more to my demographic (college-aged). I am in graduate school, but have friends from undergrad who now have very respectable jobs with lots of responsibility and importance when it comes to public image, but oh boy should you see their snapchat stories on the weekends. It's hilarious.

This exactly. I didn't download Snapchat until I got my iPhone 6s Plus last year, and then I did finally because my sister kept pestering me (she's 30 btw) that it was the easiest way to send quick dumb pics of my niece and nephew. I finally kinda "get" it now, and love it for simple stuff like that throughout the day. But the insane weekend snaps of my friends are pretty entertaining as well. It's kinda fascinating the things people post when they don't really care. Makes it more addictive to visit Snapchat than Instagram for me currently. I don't post much of my own things, but I follow a bunch of people now, and even have grown to like the news/entertainment stories too.
 
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I guess some people will care for about 24 hours, and then the caring will disappear altogether.
What a time to be alive! This will be great when the next Kony 2012 comes along, because when people feel stupid afterwords it's easier to pretend it never happened when there isn't any real evidence.
 
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What a time to be alive! This will be great when the next Kony 2012 comes along, because when people feel stupid afterwords it's easier to pretend it never happened when there isn't any real evidence.

Hah, yes. It's a little ironic that people clamour for more RAM and storage in their devices to run apps that help them to forget and delete any (well, most) records of things ever happening... :D

Whilst I see the value in the likes of this and Snapchat in certain situations for certain people, to me it's always felt fundamentally counter to the technology which is designed, for the most part, to make it easier to store and recall data. The other thing is, and I know I'm not saying anything startling or new here, but it can give people a false sense of security because if it's sent to someone else there will always be ways that what is supposed to be temporary can be captured, saved, copied or cloned in some fashion or another. For silly stuff it probably doesn't matter, but if people spend their time sending things they feel have absolutely no chance of existing after 24 hours (or whatever) then inevitably some people will eventually be in for an unpleasant surprise.
 
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Hah, yes. It's a little ironic that people clamour for more RAM and storage in their devices to run apps that help them to forget and delete any (well, most) records of things ever happening... :D

Whilst I see the value in the likes of this and Snapchat in certain situations for certain people, to me it's always felt fundamentally counter to the technology which is designed, for the most part, to make it easier to store and recall data. The other thing is, and I know I'm not saying anything startling or new here, but it can give people a false sense of security because if it's sent to someone else there will always be ways that what is supposed to be temporary can be captured, saved, copied or cloned in some fashion or another. For silly stuff it probably doesn't matter, but if people spend their time sending things they feel have absolutely no chance of existing after 24 hours (or whatever) then inevitably some people will eventually be in for an unpleasant surprise.
Yeah, I think the tools or the resources to archive all of everything some random person posts just isn't available or feasible at this point. But not too far from now every single thing will be archived, even if it's stupid crap that nobody should care about from people that aren't even known, and it will be tied to them in the future in everything that they do. Kids want less privacy but more privacy of time. They don't want to be held accountable for the actions of their youth when they're older, and yet they give all of this control to these companies and post it everywhere. I know my interns are always concerned with scrubbing their profiles before graduation and finding a job. Eventually every single piece of data that enters the internet will be archived and easily searchable. We're already partway there. There are lots of bots that archive tweets and things like that. I don't use Instagram very often, but compared to Snapchat it seems more open and I think has more public APIs, but I might be wrong. The APIs allow everything to be captured automatically. Maybe there won't be an API for these stories?
 
I dont use social media since I spend the whole day complaining about Apple here.

For what I understand, Instagram is a dating app. You post a heavily edited pic with a bunch of filters. Bikini pic for girls and a pic demonstrating value (i.e. nice car) for men. When more followers, the best catch you are.

As for keeping pictures there, its a horrible idea since all those services (including facebook) heavily compress pictures, turning them to crap.
 
The growing trend of content made to disappear is somewhat disturbing to me, as a fan of Orwell. Instagram and Snapchat have content that just disappears. News stories online now are often edited or completely changed after they're released so that it's often impossible to view the original story.

People are getting used to the idea that it's ok, or even preferable, for content to change or vanish.

Ephemeral media. Why 2017 will be like 1984.

We're all doomed!
 
Yeah, I think the tools or the resources to archive all of everything some random person posts just isn't available or feasible at this point. But not too far from now every single thing will be archived, even if it's stupid crap that nobody should care about from people that aren't even known, and it will be tied to them in the future in everything that they do. Kids want less privacy but more privacy of time. They don't want to be held accountable for the actions of their youth when they're older, and yet they give all of this control to these companies and post it everywhere. I know my interns are always concerned with scrubbing their profiles before graduation and finding a job. Eventually every single piece of data that enters the internet will be archived and easily searchable. We're already partway there. There are lots of bots that archive tweets and things like that. I don't use Instagram very often, but compared to Snapchat it seems more open and I think has more public APIs, but I might be wrong. The APIs allow everything to be captured automatically. Maybe there won't be an API for these stories?
Resources or not, if you've put it on the internet, even on Snapchat, it's somewhere. I assume that anything I've put online might potentially come back to be pointed at me...anything at all. I ask that my daughter treat it all that way as well, no matter what the service. Assume that anything you put up is permanent, and consider carefully then what you want to post.
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The growing trend of content made to disappear is somewhat disturbing to me, as a fan of Orwell. Instagram and Snapchat have content that just disappears. News stories online now are often edited or completely changed after they're released so that it's often impossible to view the original story.

People are getting used to the idea that it's ok, or even preferable, for content to change or vanish.

Ephemeral media. Why 2017 will be like 1984.

We're all doomed!
It will all come around, like it should, to professional news organizations that maintain ethics, leave up original content and post their edits non-destructively. I trust blogs who do this, and I trust that news organizations are doing it. Though I've got to go on faith.

I very much would prefer any content I put online to have a shelf life, but I don't believe it does. It's somewhere, out there, on a server. Not for nefarious purposes...but there where it can be accessed by people that do have nefarious purposes. I prefer to keep my permanent files local.
 
Now it's Snapchat's opportunity to respond... Introducing spam messages several times daily of fake-a girls trying to sell porn!
 
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