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exactly. for minimal issues installing a beta as NEW seems to be the best practice although some users are claiming OTA updates have been fine for them. For me? well not so good
And has already been discussed, I'm not the only one. Plus I have also made posts detailing these issues. So you can ram your confidence.
can you explain exactly how / what you do?
download IPSW
backup iPhone to iTunes
restore iPhone with beta 3
DON't restore from iCloud backup but restore from iTunes?
download IPSW
backup iPhone to iTunes
restore iPhone with beta 3
DON't restore from iCloud backup but restore from iTunes?
I did a clean install, set up as new, and so far very happy with it. The only crashes I've found so far, are in the wallpaper selection. I can tap to preview a wallpaper, but once I tap another, it crashes to home.
Nothing to loose sleep over it, since once I select my wallpapers, I just leave them there.
Nothing to loose sleep over it, since once I select my wallpapers, I just leave them there.
Okay, we get it... most of the people using the beta aren't developers. Nothing new...
They must have not realized there has been some MAJOR battery drain. OTA upgrades of both b1 and b2 resulted in battery drain. That is, anyone stating the opposite is wrong.
Or maybe not everyone has the same problems. My battery usage has gotten better and better with each better. Far less random reboots and app crashes too along the way. All OTA updates too for me on my daily driver.
Most people in the real world, not on tech blogs, will update via OTA. I prefer to do my testing just as they would.
Sorry to sound like a noob I kno how pissed people get at peoples questions sometimes..
Anyway, I woke up this morning and did the OTA update to Beta 3 as I did with Beta 2. I had no problems with 2, however, when 3 was complete I noticed that my notifications pull down is all black (showing words of course) but no transparency. Also, my control center is all gray, as it was in Beta 1, no transparency as well. I checked all my settings, and unless I missed it, there were no options for turning the transparency on. I have been doing a lot of reading and info checking and I have mad a point to try to deal with any bugs knowing it's Beta. But I really like the transparency and I wanna fix it.
So long story short, if anybody is willing to give me the rundown, either on this forum or I can email you (or direct message if that's available on MacRumors)? I would like to kno how I would go about downgrading if needed and to what? Then restore my phone I'm guessing (it's already backed up). And then just a new install?
Thanks in advance,
Ry
Anyway, I woke up this morning and did the OTA update to Beta 3 as I did with Beta 2. I had no problems with 2, however, when 3 was complete I noticed that my notifications pull down is all black (showing words of course) but no transparency. Also, my control center is all gray, as it was in Beta 1, no transparency as well. I checked all my settings, and unless I missed it, there were no options for turning the transparency on. I have been doing a lot of reading and info checking and I have mad a point to try to deal with any bugs knowing it's Beta. But I really like the transparency and I wanna fix it.
So long story short, if anybody is willing to give me the rundown, either on this forum or I can email you (or direct message if that's available on MacRumors)? I would like to kno how I would go about downgrading if needed and to what? Then restore my phone I'm guessing (it's already backed up). And then just a new install?
Thanks in advance,
Ry
Sorry to sound like a noob I kno how pissed people get at peoples questions sometimes..
Anyway, I woke up this morning and did the OTA update to Beta 3 as I did with Beta 2. I had no problems with 2, however, when 3 was complete I noticed that my notifications pull down is all black (showing words of course) but no transparency. Also, my control center is all gray, as it was in Beta 1, no transparency as well. I checked all my settings, and unless I missed it, there were no options for turning the transparency on. I have been doing a lot of reading and info checking and I have mad a point to try to deal with any bugs knowing it's Beta. But I really like the transparency and I wanna fix it.
So long story short, if anybody is willing to give me the rundown, either on this forum or I can email you (or direct message if that's available on MacRumors)? I would like to kno how I would go about downgrading if needed and to what? Then restore my phone I'm guessing (it's already backed up). And then just a new install?
Thanks in advance,
Ry
Some people here have mentioned that was due to having Increase Contrast enabled umber Accessibility. You might want to disable that if it is enabled.
Thank you very much that did work! I swear I had read that this morning and tried it and it didn't work lol. I probably just happened to have a black background running at the time i tired, who knows! Thanks again tho!
Those having issues ARE doing something wrong. Whether it's updating using the "trick" to avoid UDID activation, something left behind during OTA, an app that's misbehaving in the background, something in their backup they restored from, there's something amiss.
I restored to beta 3, clean install, set up as a new phone, deleted previous backups from iTunes/iCloud, and installed apps I use one a ya time to test them.
The performance is far in exess of beta 2, at least on the 4S. The biggest bug in beta 2 was the camera respring bug which has been fixed.
Animations are more fluid again, beta 2 was an improvement on beta 1 and beta 3 is a step toward further fluidity.
Apps I have installed, which work and don't cause any issues are:
YouTube
Apps I installed which caused/had issues thus far is the RBS online banking app which fails to detect an Internet connection, as it did in beta 2 (it worked in beta 1).
I'm not the only one having a very good experience on beta 3, and while you're not the only one having issues, there will be a reason other than "its a beta".
Your "second worst version of iOS ever" comment was what set me off because it was ridiculous.
Ok, since you're so sure, can you tell me why my settings app crashes when I do the following:
1) Downloading the correct firmware from the dev site using my dev account
2) Installing it then setting up the iPhone as new (not restoring from any backup)
3) Open settings, Brightness and wallpaper, select wallpaper
4) Select the built in wallpapers, choose any wallpaper and use it for my home screen
5) Press home and look at it
6) Go back into settings, select a different wallpaper (still from the built in
7) Settings crashes
You may not be getting the above problem, but since you're so sure that I'm doing something wrong, please tell me where.
Still, i'm absolutely sure you do have sub-par batteRy life, as with everybody with OTA abd without resetting all settings after that.
Betas arent meant for end users. This is why Apple doesnt pay much attention to OTA updates' being bug-free compared to fresh installs. OTA's work just fine with regular iOS versions - just not with semi-closed betas only intended for techie folks (devs). Apples to oranges.
You realize the current iOS 7 betas are meant for developers, not for the millions of customers. By the time the final version comes, most of the issues caused by the OTA will be solved. Even with iOS 6, there are issues with OTAs for some people. The problem is rarely the OS update itself but issues with the data.
I did a clean install and it was exactly the same. I wish people would stop regurgitating this nonsense advice.
Wait, these are betas? Holy cow, I didn't even realize!
The point is that a lot of people on this forum use the fresh install as their go-to answer for any and all problems. If the said problems are reliant on a fresh install rather than a bug fix, then the final product will not be quality.
Long story short, we have an expectation that the general population has the same level of technical knowledge as we do. No one in the real world has any clue what a fresh install is, let alone the potential benefits. Apple as set out to make technology as accessible as possible, and thus need to cater to that market (i.e. make it "just work" without any hassle).
This is a really good question. Text messages are pretty much the only data I can't easily restore outside of a normal iTunes or iCloud backup. When I installed beta 2, my original plan was to:
- Backup phone to iTunes
- Restore, wiping clean
- Make a copy of the above backup containing only my text message database and nothing else. Restore that to the phone
- Manually reinstall apps and modify settings as needed
I figured this would give me the best chance of avoiding issues with old data and settings screwing things up. Unfortunately, I couldn't figure out how to get step 3 to work. I tried everything I could think of: deleting everything but the text message database from the copy of my backup; making a new backup of the fresh iOS 7 install, then copying the old text message database into it; etc.
Nothing worked. iTunes always complained of a corrupted backup. I finally ended up restoring the entire previous backup, including all old settings and hoped for the best. Immediately after, I did go into the Settings app to Reset All Settings; that probably helped. But interestingly, this doesn't clear as many settings as I would have thought. So who knows what old stuff is still hanging around...
This would be so much easier if Apple allowed us to easily select only certain data to restore from a previous backup. It could be done in iTunes the same as selecting only specific music/apps/movies/etc to sync. Just a big list of all data in a backup with checkboxes to restore or not.
But that would be too useful.
Wait, these are betas? Holy cow, I didn't even realize!
The point is that a lot of people on this forum use the fresh install as their go-to answer for any and all problems. If the said problems are reliant on a fresh install rather than a bug fix, then the final product will not be quality.
Long story short, we have an expectation that the general population has the same level of technical knowledge as we do. No one in the real world has any clue what a fresh install is, let alone the potential benefits. Apple as set out to make technology as accessible as possible, and thus need to cater to that market (i.e. make it "just work" without any hassle).
I think the point bozzykid made is that while the software is in beta the devices can accumulate bad data going from one beta to another but hopefully those bugs are worked out by the time GM is released. Any normal user would be going right from 6->7 via OTA so wouldn't be accumulating those bugs from beta 1-7 (or however many) along the way