Install Yosemite or Not?

MarkieMark92

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I have a Macbook Air 2013 with the highest specs running Mavericks at the moment and I am unsure if to update to Yosemite? is it worth it? and if I decide to what will happen to all my time machine backups? :) I am also thinking of installing it on my iMac 2012
 

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Are there features in 10.10 that you want, or are you happy with Mavericks?

You're backups will still be there, though depending on your free space, TimeMachine may do a full backup since so much has changed. If you don't have enough free space for another complete backup, then your prior backups may get deleted. To be safe, turn off TM, until you're happy that Yosemite is what you want.
 
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Xeridionix

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I haven't had any issues with Yosemite on either my MacBook Pro or my wife's (which is an early 2008 model). Either do a Time Machine back up or clone/image your current installation with something like Carbon Copy Cloner that way if something does happen to go wrong you can roll back. That being said I think it's worth upgrading.
 
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marlon bishop

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I have a Macbook Air 2013 with the highest specs running Mavericks at the moment and I am unsure if to update to Yosemite? is it worth it? and if I decide to what will happen to all my time machine backups? :) I am also thinking of installing it on my iMac 2012
Install!
 
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case2001

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Install Yosemite or Not?

I just went through this same question. I have i5 mid 13. I am very pleased with Yosemite. I wanted the flat look and the hand off features. Which are fantastic. Everything else is icing on the cake. I had time machine backups, however I cloned my hard drive prior just to be safe.

As a bonus I received a nice bump in battery life!
 
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Msail30bay

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Yes! I did it on this, see pic. No problem really, just a few minor ones on Safari when I visited porn sites and play vids. I love the clean simple look of it (hated it when it first came out, not now). Some really cool features and what else........... fan NOT running on high like it did before and when using Firefox - got rid of as Safari is much better.
 

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Isamilis

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The main thing is whether you already have need for that or not. If you don't have something missing in current Mavericks, why should you?
 
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sracer

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I have a Macbook Air 2013 with the highest specs running Mavericks at the moment and I am unsure if to update to Yosemite? is it worth it? and if I decide to what will happen to all my time machine backups? :) I am also thinking of installing it on my iMac 2012
If your MBA is running fine and you don't use software that doesn't require Yosemite, then I would highly recommend staying with Mavericks.

Many people upgrade their operating systems simply because an upgrade is available. That's fine for them. For me, there needs to be something compelling in the upgrade (based on how I use my system) in order for me to upgrade.

Having said that, my 2014 MBA 11" is staying at Mavericks.... I find nothing in Yosemite worth the time to upgrade or worth dealing with the potential for Yosemite-induced bugs.
 
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Dweez

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If you've got an external USB drive, create a bootable clone of your Mavericks install with Carbon Copy Cloner, update to Yosemite & give it a test drive. If it's not for you boot from the CCC backup and put Mav back on the MBA.
 
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scaredpoet

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I have a highest spec mid-2013 MacBook Air and i upgraded it to Yosemite. I've had no issues and I'm very happy with it.

Obviously do a Time Machine backup before upgrading, but definitely upgrade.
 
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ApfelKuchen

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I see the same question for every version of every operating system (and app) that's ever been released, and the same spectrum of responses. When it comes down to it, either you are the kind who likes to update early, or the kind who likes the stability of the tried-and-true. What we say here won't change that.

But a guy's gotta try!

Judging simply by posting activity (which is always dominated by those who have had problems), Yosemite is as good as or better than most. There is no "Yosemite-gate" that would warrant greater than average caution. My own experience, on three different Macs (including a 2008 iMac running on 5 GB RAM), has been great, but that's only three data points, not a valid statistical sample.

Back when I was doing corporate IT (that was in the 90s, fwiw), my attitude about MS-DOS and Windows updates was, "Every update I've installed improved my productivity enough to justify the cost." Granted, that had everything to do with my productivity, but there were always several new features on the user end that could justify the cost as well, so long as the users knew to take advantage of them. Though my focus has shifted from Microsoft to Apple, the basic premise still holds true, and with the advent of free OS X updates, the cost-benefit curve has gone through the roof.

And new features may be the crux of it. If your current OS does everything you ask of it, and you have no interest in the new features, then there's no compelling short-term reason to change. Long term, however... If you skip a few generations of any OS (or app), you'll be hit with learning curve issues - the cumulative changes may be many, your ability to assimilate (and benefit by) them all may be less than had you made the change gradually.

My wife (who is very computer literate, fwiw), has always preferred to delay, and when change finally comes, it's often forced upon her, typically by aging/over-taxed hardware. The updates tend to be traumatic and frustrating - instead of facing one or two challenges per update, the list is usually much larger.

So long as you have no critical apps that can't run on it (the list is pretty short, if you're running Mavericks), so long as your hardware is capable (and I've seen few, if any, reports that Yosemite runs poorly on a system that can run Mavericks well)... I see no reason to avoid Yosemite at this point. Wait for 10.10.2 if you wish - an extra level of debugging can't hurt, and you won't have long to wait.

For me, SMS forwarding alone is worth it - Messages on my iPhone, iPad, and Macs are finally all in sync - no more "If he/she is using SMS, I need my phone." Plus, no matter what keyboard I use on my iPhone, touch-typing on my Mac (when I can) is far faster. It's geeky fun to answer and place phone calls from my Mac, though hardly essential. iCloud Drive brings iCloud to Finder, which can be a very good thing. Overall iOS/OS X integration is tighter, which makes me happy (though there are still some setup "gotchas" that could be better addressed in documentation). If you're not as committed to The Ecosystem, less of this will matter.
 
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case2001

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I see the same question for every version of every operating system (and app) that's ever been released, and the same spectrum of responses. When it comes down to it, either you are the kind who likes to update early, or the kind who likes the stability of the tried-and-true. What we say here won't change that.

But a guy's gotta try!

Judging simply by posting activity (which is always dominated by those who have had problems), Yosemite is as good as or better than most. There is no "Yosemite-gate" that would warrant greater than average caution. My own experience, on three different Macs (including a 2008 iMac running on 5 GB RAM), has been great, but that's only three data points, not a valid statistical sample.

Back when I was doing corporate IT (that was in the 90s, fwiw), my attitude about MS-DOS and Windows updates was, "Every update I've installed improved my productivity enough to justify the cost." Granted, that had everything to do with my productivity, but there were always several new features on the user end that could justify the cost as well, so long as the users knew to take advantage of them. Though my focus has shifted from Microsoft to Apple, the basic premise still holds true, and with the advent of free OS X updates, the cost-benefit curve has gone through the roof.

And new features may be the crux of it. If your current OS does everything you ask of it, and you have no interest in the new features, then there's no compelling short-term reason to change. Long term, however... If you skip a few generations of any OS (or app), you'll be hit with learning curve issues - the cumulative changes may be many, your ability to assimilate (and benefit by) them all may be less than had you made the change gradually.

My wife (who is very computer literate, fwiw), has always preferred to delay, and when change finally comes, it's often forced upon her, typically by aging/over-taxed hardware. The updates tend to be traumatic and frustrating - instead of facing one or two challenges per update, the list is usually much larger.

So long as you have no critical apps that can't run on it (the list is pretty short, if you're running Mavericks), so long as your hardware is capable (and I've seen few, if any, reports that Yosemite runs poorly on a system that can run Mavericks well)... I see no reason to avoid Yosemite at this point. Wait for 10.10.2 if you wish - an extra level of debugging can't hurt, and you won't have long to wait.

For me, SMS forwarding alone is worth it - Messages on my iPhone, iPad, and Macs are finally all in sync - no more "If he/she is using SMS, I need my phone." Plus, no matter what keyboard I use on my iPhone, touch-typing on my Mac (when I can) is far faster. It's geeky fun to answer and place phone calls from my Mac, though hardly essential. iCloud Drive brings iCloud to Finder, which can be a very good thing. Overall iOS/OS X integration is tighter, which makes me happy (though there are still some setup "gotchas" that could be better addressed in documentation). If you're not as committed to The Ecosystem, less of this will matter.
Excellent Post. This is the reason I only upgraded my MacBook Air. I carry it with me every day along with my iPad and iPhone. It is fantastic, they are all in synch. My other Macs at home are working fine with Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion so I am leaving them alone.
 
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case2001

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I thought I would post a follow up. Really liking Yosemite! Just as quick as mountain lion. iCloud, handoff work great. Really pleased!
 
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newellj

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I thought I would post a follow up. Really liking Yosemite! Just as quick as mountain lion. iCloud, handoff work great. Really pleased!
Glad it worked. I have had a total of four machines with Yosemite and they all ran like clocks in every respect. If I were in a grouchy mood I could wish for the prior icons but it's really a very minor thing.
 
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