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ginhb

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ClipGrab is the first app I've installed from an 'unidentified developer'. Downloaded from their website. That seems like a nice program, clean interface, easy to use, works perfectly. I like to save a number of tutorials from YouTube, copy them to my iPad and watch them offline. Software tutorials, music tutorials, etc.

The unidentified developer tag does make me a bit wary. Should it? When I was on Windows I used Microsoft Security Essentials to scan anything before installing it. That used to make me feel a bit better although I don't know how effective it really was at detecting malware, etc. Never had any issues though.

I don't have anything like MalwareBytes installed on my new iMac. Some of the articles and messages I've read indicated you don't really need that unless you're already seeing some issues on your computer. It's unlikely I'll need another app from an unidentified developer. In fact the ONLY non-Apple app I've installed is Photoshop. The Apple 'Photos' app just doesn't have the editing tools I need.

One question about installing apps, the ClipGrab download file created a disk image on the desktop after opening it. The program launches from there but never showed up in my applications folder. I expected it to but couldn't get it to show up in there even after trying again. What basic step am I missing? Thanks
 
MAC OS is based on BSD Unix that has to MOUNT a non-startup drive then just drag the program from the temp drive icon and move it to your Applications folder to install the program! then you can TRASH the temp drive icon and delete the zip file at the same time and delete it!
 
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"The unidentified developer tag does make me a bit wary. Should it?"

No.
Don't worry about.
Not even a little bit.

This is all part of Apple's plan to eventually force Mac users into a "walled garden" from which they'll have to get ALL software through the App Store. And they try to "scare you" with phony warnings like the one you're seeing.

The very first thing I do after an OS install is to DISABLE all these unnecessary barriers.
Things run much better that way and I've never had a problem (other than one instance of "adware" once which MalwareBytes removed in a few seconds).

ClipGrab is excellent software.
Use it and smile!
 
"The unidentified developer tag does make me a bit wary. Should it?"

No.
Don't worry about.
Not even a little bit.

This is all part of Apple's plan to eventually force Mac users into a "walled garden" from which they'll have to get ALL software through the App Store. And they try to "scare you" with phony warnings like the one you're seeing.

The very first thing I do after an OS install is to DISABLE all these unnecessary barriers.
Things run much better that way and I've never had a problem (other than one instance of "adware" once which MalwareBytes removed in a few seconds).

ClipGrab is excellent software.
Use it and smile!
You are wrong. Developers can easily sign their software with a certificate that tells the user that software doesn't contain harmful code. Even if the app is distributed outside of Mac App Store it can be recognized as a product from an identified developer. There are three options in Security and Privacy: App Store, App Store, and identified developers and Anywhere. The second option is the default. You shouldn't use the third one if you don't know the developer well or if the app is still getting updated. If it is not because that app stopped being developed before times of these certificates it can be ok. In other cases, that's only laziness (or bad intentions) of the developer and should get suspicious. If someone is telling you to disable some sort of protection to allow an app to work - do not trust that guy. Your "DISABLING all these unnecessary barriers" isn't a good move and you shouldn't recommend users to do this. By the way, ginhb check if you have system integrity protection enabled. Open terminal and run command "csrutil status". If it says "System Integrity Protection status: enabled." - that's fine. If not - follow that guide: http://bit.ly/2yDywbz.
 
"Your "DISABLING all these unnecessary barriers" isn't a good move and you shouldn't recommend users to do this."

I've been a Mac user since 1987 -- and have no problems doing what I do.
You can advise folks as you wish, and I'll continue to advise them as I do, based on three decades of Mac experience.

Thanks for your input.
 
"By the way, ginhb check if you have system integrity protection enabled. Open terminal and run command "csrutil status". If it says "System Integrity Protection status: enabled." - that's fine. If not - follow that guide:"

Yes it IS enabled. I bookmarked that OS X site for further reading on various things they cover there. I'm still compiling Mac related sites to refer to down the road. Thanks

Prior to buying this iMac I had only used MS-DOS and Windows machines beginning in the late 80's. So the whole Mac OS experience is new to me.
 
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