installer.app (AppTapp) and iFuntastic no longer working with iTunes 7.4???

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by buffettfan33, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. buffettfan33 macrumors member

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    Ok, after I did the iTunes update to 7.4, I stupidly decided to do a restore on my iPhone to start off with a clean slate, as I had previously used iFuntastic, but now wanted to switch over to using only installer.app via the AppTapp installer (and also because I kinda wanted to test the waters with 7.4 :) ). Now, neither seem to be working...

    When I try to use AppTapp it barely lets me get past clicking continue when it pops up and tells me that "Boot strap failed. Check consolelog for detail" (or something close to that). My iPhone then just hangs at the "Please connect to iTunes screen" (the yellow triangle of death if you will...), and the only way I can do ANYTHING is to restore it via iTunes. Tried this 3 different times and came up with the same thing. I also searched around for other people having boot strap errors and didn't really come up with much (thus my post here).

    I then resorted to trying iFuntastic (after I restored again), and at certain points it said it was unshackling, and after about 2 reboots it says it is unshackled, it just times out when I try to do anything and I get a communication error. Tried rebooting (computer and iPhone), unplugging, etc., all with no luck.

    I e-mailed the people at nullriver about this issue, and may do the same with iFuntastic (though I really just want to use installer.app, since iFuntastic tries to do too much and makes it tough to revert without restoring).

    Anyone else have this happen? (though I doubt anyone will want to try to replicate this now :D ) I'm up for ideas and/or suggestions. I'll be in class until later this evening so I may not be able to try anything right away, but will definitely be willing to fool around with it later tonight.

    First the iPhone price drop and now the update to 7.4... looks like I learned two lessons in one day on why not to be an early adopter ;)
     
  2. Speedracer04 macrumors 6502a

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    can anyone confirm this? If so then screw updating, why do I need to buy ringtones when I can have as many as i want for free now!?
     
  3. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    So did you try downloading iTunes 7.3.2 and running AppTap?

    FYI Just syncing to 7.4 doesnt touch any of your mods.
     
  4. racemize macrumors member

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    the people at fiveforty forum are reporting bricking (actual nonrecoverable bricking) of iphones after restoring in 7.4 and attempting to jailbreak. I'm not sure what the deal is yet though.
     
  5. /dev/toaster macrumors 68020

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    Ya, I haven't been able to get it to work ... however, after hearing reports of bricking, I am going to back away from this. This was going to be my first attempt to mod the phone, however I will wait for confirmed reports of it working again.
     
  6. joeconvert macrumors 6502

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    Folks at NullRiver report that Installer does not work with 7.4.
     
  7. racemize macrumors member

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    after reading through it again:

    http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4887&page=9

    I think it may just be people who are restoring an iPhone after it was unjailed (but not rejailed). It's still very unclear though. In the meantime, I wouldn't update to 7.4 until nullriver figures out how to get it working safely there (at least I'm not going to).
     
  8. ghall macrumors 68040

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    I get the feeling they're trying to prevent hacking. This really sucks, as I really wanted to install the NES emulator. Oh well, I'm not taking the risk.
     
  9. /dev/toaster macrumors 68020

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    Its been fixed ... they just released version 3.0 a few mins ago in IRC ... I tried it and it works.

    Its on the site now as well.
     
  10. racemize macrumors member

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    so you've restored in 7.4 and used the installer successfully?
     
  11. Daiden macrumors 6502a

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    Through iTunes & software updates, Apple is going to actively try to stop hackers from messing with their product. Expect this. But, also expect that the hackers will continue to find out ways to get access to the iPhone.

    So, if you've used jailbreak on your phone, be cautious of iPhone updates and iTunes changes. You never know what Apple will be putting in there to stop you from using hacked software on their phone.
     
  12. The General macrumors 601

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    I can confirm that version 3 works with an iTunes 7.4 restored iPhone.
     
  13. racemize macrumors member

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    Just to be absolutely clear, you took your modded iPhone (which I assume was just using installer.app), restored that in the the new version of iTunes, and then reinstalled installer.app?
    (as opposed to restoring in 7.3.x and then restoring again in 7.4, for example)
     
  14. The General macrumors 601

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    Yes. I updatd iTunes to version 7.4, plugged my modded iPhone into my MacBook Pro, restored my modded iPhone to original factory settings by means of pressing the "restore" button in iTunes.

    Then I downloaded the AppTapp installer from http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/ where you can clearly see the new version 3.0 is said to be for iTunes 7.4, ran the installer and it worked 100% perfectly fine without a hitch whatsoever.

    I am now installing BSD Subsystem and OpenSSH on my iPhone using Installer.app.

    I cannot possibly be anymore crystal clear in how crystal clear I am being: It works.
     
  15. buffettfan33 thread starter macrumors member

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    Sweet!!! Thanks for being the guinea pig General!

    Edit: Double Sweet!!! Hundred bucks back AND MobileChat, Summerboard, NES etc. Amazing how much can change in 8 hours... :rolleyes:
     
  16. racemize macrumors member

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    very good; I suspect that the bricked iphones are coming from people trying to activate outside of ATT (the tools they mentioned were for activation and jailbreaking I think). Appears to be a nonissue for our more mundane hacking needs.
     
  17. brickediphone macrumors newbie

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    confirmed

    Yeah, i bricked my iphone this morning with the latest version of AppTap & the latest iTunes 7.4 (26) and iPhone 1.0.2 (1C28). But as for the above comment, i am an ATT customer & my phone was activated as such. I was able to restore my iPhone to factory defaults, but stay away for now....
     
  18. flooie macrumors newbie

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    Hey, I have the exact same problem. I actually just got my phone the day after the price drop and tried to install nullrivers apptapp but I get to the same caution sign with the '!'.
     
  19. Headblade macrumors newbie

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    I have spent all day on this as i was sick of iFuntastic, and wanted to mod my phone without all their extra pages and stuff. Reset my phone several times, had issues with visual VM, etc... Finally found this thread, and now.... Woohoo!
    Installing BSD subsystem now. Thanks for the heads up on the new version of installer...
     
  20. SolrFlare macrumors regular

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    I can confirm that Apptapp(installer.app) works perfectly fine with 7.4.1. At least on a Mac. It's important to just remember the basic steps:

    Dock your iphone, go in itunes and uncheck sync automatically, quit itunes, then run the install application. Let it do its thing then once it's done just fire back up itunes and re-check sync automatically.

    Then just load the BSD subsystem, launcher, and summerboard on your iphone from the installer application and go to town :)
     
  21. kaitak98 macrumors newbie

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    I had the same problems....

    To get iFuntastic to work I had to download an old version of MobileDevice.Framwork and replace the newer file via the terminal.

    See this thread for a link to the file and the terminal commands:

    http://www.iphonealley.com/forums/showthread.php?t=896

    The second screen in iFuntastic now stays there long enough to read and you see a buch of verbose code on the screen of the phone. This worked on my Macbook even thought the thread has PPC in the title.

    I then tried to install AppTapp and had the same bootstrap error. Had to recover via iTunes. Tried going with AppTapp before iFuntastic with the same result. At least this time my backup worked which hasn't always been the case.

    So, I'm living with iFuntastic and manually installing apps for now. It worked like a charm with iTunes 7.4.2 once the old framework was place and I haven't had any ill effects from reverting.

    I think we need a new term for a non-working device that is recoverable so people don't get too freaked out. Maybe "Soft Bricked"?
     
  22. Speedracer04 macrumors 6502a

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    Apparently some people are having luck in getting iFuntastic working with iTunes 7.4.XX, but I have not tried it yet.


     
  23. 300ZX macrumors member

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    I can confirm that AppTapp does NOT work with iTunes 7.4.1

    I tried it twice and had to restore my phone both times.
     
  24. The General macrumors 601

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    :confused: It works just fine.

    Click for full sized:
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    Where are you getting the AppTapp installer? This is the only place you should get it from:
    http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/

    Also, you're choosing firmware version 1.0.2, no? There's no reason why yours shouldn't work.
     
  25. moviespoof macrumors newbie

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    Free Me

    I just did the same thing.

    Got and experienced everything you did...

    go here follow all the instructions:

    http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/endless_reboot

    after that you will be back to where you were....:rolleyes:

    make sure you re:new your password in the terminal from what it is to what you want it to be after you finish...

    NES works ok but you can't save the games so you better be really good at super mario.



     

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