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Installing Leopard on a TiBook

bunnspecial

bunnspecial

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I just got my hot hands on a retail Leopard install DVD(it came with an MDD that I bought from a forum member here) and was anxious to do a fresh Leopard install on my TiBook.

Mine is the last generation model, and can officially support Leopard without using any work-arounds. It has an 867mhz processor, and I just upgraded it to 1gb ram(I think the max).

The issue I'm having is that it spits the Leopard DVD back out as soon as I put it in the drive.

As I said, this is a real, genuine Apple retail install DVD. I know that the optical drive can read DVDs, as I installed Tiger from a DVD.

Is the issue with it being a double layer disk?

If so, I guess that "option B" is to boot the TiBook in target disk mode and run the Leopard installer from my G5. I'd rather just install it natively, though.

Any thoughts on what could be going on?
 
I've been able to install Leopard on various Tibooks without a problem. The lens in yours may be dirty or the laser may be weak. Installing it via the G5 would be faster.
 
bunnspecial said:
I just got my hot hands on a retail Leopard install DVD(it came with an MDD that I bought from a forum member here) and was anxious to do a fresh Leopard install on my TiBook.

Mine is the last generation model, and can officially support Leopard without using any work-arounds. It has an 867mhz processor, and I just upgraded it to 1gb ram(I think the max).

The issue I'm having is that it spits the Leopard DVD back out as soon as I put it in the drive.

As I said, this is a real, genuine Apple retail install DVD. I know that the optical drive can read DVDs, as I installed Tiger from a DVD.

Is the issue with it being a double layer disk?

If so, I guess that "option B" is to boot the TiBook in target disk mode and run the Leopard installer from my G5. I'd rather just install it natively, though.

Any thoughts on what could be going on?
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Leopard ships on a dual layer disk and as a result some older DVD drives have trouble reading them because the laser gets dirty or weak over time.
 
bunnspecial said:
I just got my hot hands on a retail Leopard install DVD(it came with an MDD that I bought from a forum member here) and was anxious to do a fresh Leopard install on my TiBook.

Mine is the last generation model, and can officially support Leopard without using any work-arounds. It has an 867mhz processor, and I just upgraded it to 1gb ram(I think the max).

The issue I'm having is that it spits the Leopard DVD back out as soon as I put it in the drive.

As I said, this is a real, genuine Apple retail install DVD. I know that the optical drive can read DVDs, as I installed Tiger from a DVD.

Is the issue with it being a double layer disk?

If so, I guess that "option B" is to boot the TiBook in target disk mode and run the Leopard installer from my G5. I'd rather just install it natively, though.

Any thoughts on what could be going on?
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Try buying a DL-DVD, ripping the ISO of the Leopard DVD, and then burning it onto a DL-DVD or a FireWire drive.
 
128keaton said:
Try buying a DL-DVD, ripping the ISO of the Leopard DVD, and then burning it onto a DL-DVD or a FireWire drive.
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I've never had any luck getting a good burn onto a DL disk...(and that includes trying to burn a Leopard ISO)

Somewhere around here, I have some of the cleaning disks that one use to be able to buy. They have a small, soft brush attached to the underside of the CD, along with some audio content to "coax" the laser into the area where it will be cleaned. Since some here are suggesting possibly a dirty lens, I may try running one of those later and see if it improves anything.
 
The best advice I've yet received to burn a dual layer disk was to use Disk Utility. I have Toast, but that was not suggested and DU has worked every time.
 
I burnt a few copies of Leopard back in the day as I wanted to keep my retail copy pristine (they were not free then). Dug one out recently and it still reads fine. Use a decent DL brand. I stuck to Ritek and Verbatim and avoided the much cheaper Aone.

Eyoungren is correct. Never use Toast to burn a bootable PPC disk. It mucks it up every time. Use Disk Utility and if burning Panther or older remember to lock the image down first or it can get 'unblessed'.

And burn slowly.
 
The last couple of times I've tried to burn Leopard, I've used a Verabtim DL-DVD.

I set up my Macbook Pro on my dining room table and left it undisturbed while it was burning(I think it took about 45 minutes). I did use Disk Utility, and not any other program.

Perhaps my mistake was in trying to do it with my MBP and Mavericks, and not on something like my G5.
 
bunnspecial said:
The last couple of times I've tried to burn Leopard, I've used a Verabtim DL-DVD.

I set up my Macbook Pro on my dining room table and left it undisturbed while it was burning(I think it took about 45 minutes). I did use Disk Utility, and not any other program.

Perhaps my mistake was in trying to do it with my MBP and Mavericks, and not on something like my G5.
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Perhaps. When I burned mine, it was using my 17" DLSD.
 
weckart said:
I burnt a few copies of Leopard back in the day as I wanted to keep my retail copy pristine (they were not free then). Dug one out recently and it still reads fine. Use a decent DL brand. I stuck to Ritek and Verbatim and avoided the much cheaper Aone.

Eyoungren is correct. Never use Toast to burn a bootable PPC disk. It mucks it up every time. Use Disk Utility and if burning Panther or older remember to lock the image down first or it can get 'unblessed'.

And burn slowly.
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Even though Verbatim is low priced, they are very good quality!
 
I ran a cleaner disk through the optical drive in my TiBook, and the Leopard install disk is now running without issue!
 
Success!

I'm posting this now from the fresh install of Leopard on my TiBook. Once I got the DVD drive going, the install went without any problems.
 
Altemose said:
Glad it installed correctly. How is the performance?
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It's tied up downloading and installing updates now, so I haven't really had a chance to put it through its paces.

Thank goodness for gigabit ethernet. The Leopard combined update is close to 800mb, and with some of the other updates bring the total up to over a gig. That would take a long time over 802.11b!
 
128keaton said:
Even though Verbatim is low priced, they are very good quality!
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Hell, no. Verbatim is a premium brand with a price to match. At least that was the case before burning discs fell out of favour. There is also a hierarchy to observe:
Made in Japan - the best. Stock up on these.
Made in Taiwan - Not bad
Made in China - Still serviceable
Made in India - Crappy Baer Moser dyes. Coasters and fading aplenty. Avoid.

DL discs were invariably made in Singapore. I have not bought any in years do I don't know if any of the above still applies.
 
weckart said:
Hell, no. Verbatim is a premium brand with a price to match. At least that was the case before burning discs fell out of favour. There is also a hierarchy to observe:
Made in Japan - the best. Stock up on these.
Made in Taiwan - Not bad
Made in China - Still serviceable
Made in India - Crappy Baer Moser dyes. Coasters and fading aplenty. Avoid.

DL discs were invariably made in Singapore. I have not bought any in years do I don't know if any of the above still applies.
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The Verbatim DL-DVDs that I have(bought about 3 weeks ago from Radio Shack) are marked Made in Taiwan.

How does leopard run on a ti as compared to tiger? I just picked up a 667GHz DVI (only $20 and okay shape)....
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So far so good. It doesn't feel as "crisp" as it does on my G5 and even G4 towers, but then that's to be expected.

It's definitely useable, though, and I'd say in overall responsiveness I find it about equal to Tiger. I've not tried to do anything too serious on it since upgrading-mostly just surfing and some light word processor work.

I should also add that I maxed out the ram-at 1gb-before installing Leopard. From my past experience with Leopard, I feel like a lack of ram can really bog it down. Of everything I have currently running Leopard, the TiBook actually has the least amount of ram, and I really wouldn't want to try and use it with less than 1gb.
 
bunnspecial said:
The Verbatim DL-DVDs that I have(bought about 3 weeks ago from Radio Shack) are marked Made in Taiwan.
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I checked some today, in two different shops. All were made in the UAE. so things have changed in the past few years.

As for Leopard, 10.5.2 heralded the era of WiFi issues that OSX has never really recovered from. Before that, it was solid on all of my notebooks.
 
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