Installing new SSD with only OS/Apps on to boost speed?

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  1. RyanWW macrumors newbie

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    I was wondering would it be worth installing a brand new SSD with only the OS system and my apps on and then just storing all my other media onto another external HDD, and saving files from then on only onto the HDD in an attempt to restore the speed of my macbook pro mid 2012?

    what do you guys think?
     
  2. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    If the machine doesn't have an SSD now, then yes.

    If it does, then no.
     
  3. maflynn Moderator

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    One caveat to doing this, is you'll always need to travel with an external drive.

    How much data are we talking about it? It may make sense just to bite the bullet and get a larger SSD.
     
  4. RyanWW thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Currently I have 56gb free and my macbook is horrendously slow. It is an SSD that i installed at the time i bought the macbook in 2012.


    I never travel anymore with my laptop, so the caveat you describe may be worth the minor inconvenience as the majority of the files stored my internal need never rarely to be accessed.

    I do have TRIM enabled but as my SSD storage has become more full it has slowed.

    Do you think this is worth it?
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    It does have an SSD in but it is definitely considerably slower than before
     
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    I think you misunderstood my question.

    Its not the free gigabytes that matter but how much space you need, i.e., can you buy a 256GB SSD, or do you need a 512GB model, or even a 1TB model? I think you can justify spending some money on an older machine, but obviously you don't want to overspend. That's where the deciding factor is, what size SSD do you need, how can you justify spending that much money on a 6 year old computer.
     
  6. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    - Which SSD do you have and which OS version are you running?

    There's no point to switching out the SSD just to clear up more space. That won't make anything faster.
    Can you describe a bit more the sort of symptoms of slowness you're seeing? It sounds like your internal SATA drive cable may be at fault.
     
  7. Fishrrman macrumors G4

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    JT makes an excellent point in post 6 above.

    A flaky SATA ribbon cable can cause havoc with SSDs.

    You might be able to troubleshoot by taking the ssd back out of the Macbook, and connecting it temporarily via a USB3 enclosure.

    IF the speeds suddenly get better via USB3, that would point towards the ribbon cable as the problem.

    The cables are cheap and you can find them from various sources.
     
  8. RyanWW, Aug 21, 2016
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    RyanWW thread starter macrumors newbie

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    But the free gigabytes do matter because having a certain percentage of your drive free of space does enable the os to run smoother, thats a fact I've read everywhere
    I have 10.11.5, I would have the 10.11.6 update (however my mac won't restart, possibly due to finder-but thats a whole other issue) and a crucial ssd.

    Look from I have seen over the internet, everywhere suggests that if you use a drive as just a boot drive, with only the OS and apps on it you will see big benefits in load times and generally the whole computer will run smoother, they all suggest having a bit of free space even if you choose not go down that road.

    My thinking is a fresh install on a new SSD, or just doing it on the one I own would result in a smoother experience, plus apparently reading and writing multiple times on an SSD does it no good but i cannot confirm that obviously as im not that experienced. Again just something I have read.
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    Interesting, they may be cheap but is it an easy install? As i'm not so hands on when it comes to more technical things as that.
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    Sorry i just realised I didn't really describe my symptoms and more specifically my SSD is the crucial m4 2.5" which i realise is probably fairly outdated by now.

    Its just slow in general really, Its hard to explain, the boot up is fast but when i log in it takes a while to load up apps, slightly crashes, opening new windows in browsers becomes challenging, it wont shut down without me forcing it too now, however i wonder if an update did that.
     
  9. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    - That's rubbish. True about the free space, but there's no reason having additional data other than OS and apps stored on the drive would cause any sort of slowdowns.
    You already have 50 GB free, which is more than sufficient.

    - That's possible. But then it isn't because of any storage related issues, but simply because your OS installation may be bad in some way.

    - Also technically true. Doesn't have any impact in the real world with laptop usage, though.
    Do you run with TRIM enabled on the SSD or not?

    - https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Unibody+Mid+2012+Hard+Drive+Cable+Replacement/10379

    - I'd say it's either OS problems or a failed SATA cable.

    I would recommend you start with a simple OS reinstallation. No erasing of drives. Just a normal reinstallation on top of the current installation. Then go from there.
     
  10. MacInTO macrumors 65816

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    If you have a 2012 cMBP, you can always remove the optical drive and put a second HD or SSD in a caddy in that position.

    I have a 1TB SSD in the main slot and it's starting to fill up. 2TB and larger SSDs are still a bit expensive and it's more cost effective to get a second 1TB SSD and install it in the optical port. I also like the fact that I have files on two different devices in case of failure.

    I used to go the external drive route, but I found accessing and saving large files to it a bit slow compared to an internal SSD. Plus it's always a hassle having to plug/unplug it.

    It all really comes down to how you like to work.
     
  11. simonsi macrumors 601

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    What on earth is a slight crash?
     
  12. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    I'm just wondering if there's an update on this thread?
     

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