Installing Tiger on Multiple Computers

[Macky-Mac]

... just becuase apple's EULA limits how many computers you install it on, I wonder if it is legal for them to say you can only install it on one computer, or >5 if you get a family pack. ...

So seriously, can apple say you can only install it on one computer? If so, why is this different than music companies not being able to say the same thing?...

the thing is YOU agreed to those conditions......LOL, yes you did! When you were installing the software you may have just clicked on the "I agree" button and gone on to the next step.....but you did give your agreement to the terms of the EULA.......that's why it's "legal"

an EULA is a form of a contract between the software vendor and you......you may not like the fact that you have to agree to the terms, but hey, you don't have to buy the product if you don't

and even though somebody is sure to claim that they've never heard of a court upholding EULAs, they do in fact get enforced by courts all the time.....although that doesn't mean all EULAs are enforced by the courts but just that the courts have accepted EULAs as a valid concept for a binding contract

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Unfortunately you cannot since there is no EDU family pack.

I'm sorry... we can get Tiger Family Pack at EDU prices in Europe (Edit: Norway, I should say, don't know about the rest), so I assumed you could in the US, too...

 

[Diatribe]

I'm sorry... we cen get Tiger Family Pack at EDU prices in Europe (Edit: Norway, I should say, don't know about the rest), so I assumed you could in the US, too...

I don't quite live in the US.... but you can't buy an EDU family pack in Germany, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And I know some people that will definitely not buy the regular family pack for two macs or two EDU licenses, which cost the same. If those people could get an EDU family pack they'd buy it, so I think Apple is hurting themselves with this policy.

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I don't quite live in the US.... but you can't buy an EDU family pack in Germany, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And I know some people that will definitely not buy the regular family pack for two macs or two EDU licenses, which cost the same. If those people could get an EDU family pack they'd buy it, so I think Apple is hurting themselves with this policy.

I'm so sorry... again... I didn't read your location either... (apparently not quite my day... )

But as a student (not living in student housing) with two Macs at home (my iBook and my girlfriends Pismo)able to run Tiger, I'm definitly going for the EDU family pack (even if my girlfriend is not a student)...

So I totally agree with you, Apple makes a mistake not making this available worldwide, some students have two Macs or are living with someone with a Mac, and I think many of those are willing to buy an EDU priced family pack, but NOT two or more single licences... bad business and bad education (no pun intended) of young customers, who get used to stretching EULAs, or violating them completely... (just look at me who are going to get an EDU version of Tiger family pack and share it with my non-student girlfriend... )

 

[Diatribe]

I'm so sorry... again... I didn't read your location either... (apparently not quite my day... )

But as a student (not living in student housing) with two Macs at home (my iBook and my girlfriends Pismo)able to run Tiger, I'm definitly going for the EDU family pack (even if my girlfriend is not a student)...

So I totally agree with you, Apple makes a mistake not making this available worldwide, some students have two Macs or are living with someone with a Mac, and I think many of those are willing to buy an EDU priced family pack, but NOT two or more single licences... bad business and bad education (no pun intended) of young customers, who get used to stretching EULAs, or violating them completely... (just look at me who are going to get an EDU version of Tiger family pack and share it with my non-student girlfriend... )

Don't worry about it...
Good that we agree on that. It's not like people want to screw Apple over but buying 2 licenses for your own macs is a bit over the top, especially when you're a student and no one else is using those macs.
It's weird though that you can buy it in some countries and some not.

 

[t300]

Hey, a lot of us have 5,6,or 7 Macs and have already put so much money down for those machines and their upgrades. Apple wouldn't complain that you installed Tiger onto all of them.

 

[kevinuaa]

the thing is YOU agreed to those conditions......LOL, yes you did! When you were installing the software you may have just clicked on the "I agree" button and gone on to the next step.....but you did give your agreement to the terms of the EULA.......that's why it's "legal"

an EULA is a form of a contract between the software vendor and you......you may not like the fact that you have to agree to the terms, but hey, you don't have to buy the product if you don't

and even though somebody is sure to claim that they've never heard of a court upholding EULAs, they do in fact get enforced by courts all the time.....although that doesn't mean all EULAs are enforced by the courts but just that the courts have accepted EULAs as a valid concept for a binding contract

Hey, bro, no need to get your panties in a twirl. As I said, I personally will buy one liscense for one computer.

But simply becuase APPLE put something in their EULA does not mean we legally have to follow it to use the software. There are legal limits...otherwise music companies would say you can't sell used cds. oh wait, they tried and failed. there is fair use (which again, many people abuse the concept to rationalize piracy) which grants us rights to the software beyond the EULA.

IANAL, so I can't think of any particular cases, but i do know you're allowed to make a back up of the software regardless of what the liscense says.

 

[ldburroughs]

No, its not immoral in my opinion, as you have bought it and installed it on your own machines, but it IS illegal. If I had 2 Macs, I'd install it on my 2 machines, but NEVER on my friends machine.

However, I DO NOT find it immoral to buy a family pack of Tiger and install that on my Mac and on 4 friends' computers, or on my brothers' Mac (if he had a Mac, that is ), even though he lives on campus at University and not with me or my family. I am paying extra so that I can install it on more than one machine. Why does it matter if my 'lil brother lives at University? Its not robbery. Its not even Apple's business where my brother moves. Its just a very arbitrary rule. Hey, if my brother moves again, he should uninstall his version and we should be required by law to buy another version of Tiger for him!! Wouldn't Apple LUUURVE that!!!!

I don't mind paying Apple, and I don't want to rob Apple of money. I'll pay for the family pack if I want to install it on more than my own machine, but if my brother moved out of the house, his family licensed version of Tiger STAYS ON HIS MACHINE!!! I'll pay Apple for Tiger. I'll definitely pay for a family pack if I need to, but if it happens to be on my brother's computer, or on the computer of my very close cousin's machine, then so be it.

Incredible! Theft is immoral. You are not buying the software itself. You are buying the right to use it. Therefore, you must comply with the licensing restrictions. If you choose not to, you are stealing. Stealing is a crime. It is also immoral. These concepts do not go hand in hand in every situation but they certainly do in this case. It's pretty basic and it's a shame you don't know this. Absolutely incredible!

 

[ldburroughs]

Hey, a lot of us have 5,6,or 7 Macs and have already put so much money down for those machines and their upgrades. Apple wouldn't complain that you installed Tiger onto all of them.

Apple should complain and has a right to. If you install x number of copies, you should buy the license to install x number of copies. It's amazing how many people are attempting to justify stealing in this thread. If you own x number of Macs, you have to consider the actual cost to upgrade all of them. This is not an example of fair use. Making a backup copy of your software for archiving purposes is not the same thing as using it on 7 different machines. Come on people ... be reasonable. Everyone wants something for nothing. Where did this sense of entitlement come from anyway? Apple doesn't owe you anything. If you use it, you should pay for it. If you are a student, you get a discount. It doesn't matter how poor you make yourself out to be. If you bought a mac, you cant be that poor. Panther works well if you can't afford the upgrade right now. You cannot justify stealing something that isn't yours.

 

[Bear]

Hey, a lot of us have 5,6,or 7 Macs and have already put so much money down for those machines and their upgrades. Apple wouldn't complain that you installed Tiger onto all of them.

If you have 5 or less computer, the Family Pack is perfect for you at less than the cost of two licenses. 6 Computers? Family Pack+Single license. 7-10? 2 Family Packs.

Not all that expensive really. Apple at least sells a Family Pack (unlike anolther OS vendor). I have my Family Pack on order.

 

[Sun Baked]

I hope you're being sarcastic.

Slightly, have a ways to go if I really want to answer the dudes question.

A bunch of friends and I want to get Tiger... We are wondering if buying the family version and using it between the five of us is legal. This is seems pretty obvious but if we bought the single version, would we have the chance to get in trouble from sharing that? Any help would be great

Shouldn't be any problem and long as you guys are all living together and swapping spit and other bodily fluids.

Heck, just consider yourselves one big Mormon family, that's not recognized by the church or the state.

Apple wouldn't dare be suing you then.