Instapaper Service Temporarily Suspended in Europe Due to GDPR

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    Popular read-it-later service Instapaper has temporarily suspended user access across Europe as it comes to terms with the EU's impending General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) laws.

    In a message sent to users yesterday - subsequently shared via Twitter courtesy of tech reporter Owen Williams - the bookmarking service said it needs extra time to make necessary changes to comply with GDPR before the deadline on Friday, May 25.

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    Instapaper gave no indication how long the service would be suspended, and offered no further details on why it has waited until now to take action, almost two years after companies were informed of the GDPR timeline.

    Created by Marco Arment in 2008, Instapaper was one of the first apps that implemented read-it-later functionality, and it was certainly one of the most widely used and well-known apps in the genre. The service was acquired by Pinterest in 2016, which may have complicated efforts for GDPR compliance given the potential for data sharing between the parent company and its subsidiary.

    Businesses that interact with users in the EU must comply with the GDPR law, which sets out requirements on the collection, storage, and handling of personal data. Companies who fail to do so by the deadline risk heavy fines.

    On Wednesday, Apple launched a new Data & Privacy website, which provides customers in the European Union, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland with the ability to download all the personal information tied to their Apple ID account.

    (Via The Verge.)

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  2. martyjmclean, May 24, 2018
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    Is there any perks to using Instapaper over Pocket?
    Also: Europe should say EU, they’re not mutually exclusive.
     
  3. Xgm541 macrumors 65816

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    It sounds like MR is correct in stating Europe because the instapaper statement says Europe, not just EU. I imagine blocking all of Europe is an incorrect statement but I don't use the app and don't know anyone in non EU European countries who does.
     
  4. Telos101 macrumors regular

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    Instapaper has a cleaner UI, otherwise I'd say it's down to personal preference.

    Instapaper's statement does say it's suspended in "Europe", so yeah it's a bit murky. Maybe their European server services both EU and non-EU countries, so everyone loses out.
     
  5. SiMartin macrumors member

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    "The service was acquired by Pinterest in 2016, which may have complicated efforts for GDPR compliance ..."

    If anything I'd expect they'd be more prepared for GDPR if owned by a larger site such as Pinterest. Were Pinterest asleep for the past few years?

    Of note, and I hadn't thought about it until today, MacRumors is one of the few businesses/sites that hasn't notified me about GDPR yet, and I'm in a European country so covered by the regulations. I presume MacRumors is going to be complying with the regulations?
     
  6. dumastudetto macrumors 68030

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    The platform macrumors is using has been updated with tools for GDPR compliance, so it should be relatively easy for them to comply.
     
  7. architect1337 macrumors member

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    It’s a myth to think that anyone who manages data of EU citizens has to send out an email to regain consent. Providing MR can show you consented to use the service (and signing up to the forum would be implied consent), they don’t have to mail you again.
     
  8. MrGimper macrumors 603

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    It depends what data Macrumors holds about an individual, and for what purpose. If you knew what data you were supplying and for what purpose you were doing so, then no problem. Then there's the whole accountability, privacy and right to be forgotten in there too
     
  9. ginkobiloba macrumors 6502

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    strange, Instapaper is working perfectly here..( I'm in the EU )
     
  10. Cindori macrumors 68040

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    GDPR is still 10 hours away.
     
  11. haruhiko macrumors 601

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    I have switched to Pocket since the moment that Marco sold it.
     
  12. jlwarlow macrumors regular

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    I wish a load of companies that emailed me over the last few days knew this!
     
  13. rturner2 macrumors 6502a

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    “almost two years after companies were informed of the GDPR timeline.“ - what BS. The gov didn’t email everyone explaining this in-depth and paying for the labour required.
     
  14. makr macrumors regular

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    Looks a lot like a student doing revision a day before the exam, come on you knew this day would come.
     
  15. nathan_393 macrumors member

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    Updating their privacy policy doesn't require an email (I wish everybody understood this). They could put a banner on the website, or you could inquire to the technical staff here about your right to be forgotten. The GDPR is meant to protect you from malicious advertisers. When you sign up to a forum, you have already given consent, and they don't have to email you to tell you how you can be forgotten.

    If you didn't give consent to the way they were using your data before, they would have to update you. But since your data is just what you supplied to them to use for a forum, and MR supposedly doesn't track you for ads, there is nothing to update.
     
  16. Stella macrumors G3

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    Looks like Instapaper dropped the ball. They've had plenty of time to act, this requirement didn't occur overnight. EU citizens can go look for alternatives.
     
  17. rmariboe macrumors newbie

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    Lots if not most of the EU countries have already for many years had local legislation compelling data holders to comply with GDPR :)

    GDPR is basically a unification and generalization of already present and more or less enforced privacy legislation.

    The most important aspect is the fact that now no one is allowed anywhere to store or otherwise process personal data not needed by the services they provide in order for them to function...
     
  18. adamjackson macrumors 65816

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    Launched in 2008. can't believe this app is 10 years old. I use it every day still.
     
  19. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus

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    Its a great app and I've been using it daily since it first came out, too. I was a little concenred when Pinterest took it over, but they've not done anything bad with it at all, and that makes me happy.
     
  20. theluggage macrumors 68040

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    Those will be the ones that automatically added you to their marketing email list because you didn't tick an "opt-out" box buried somewhere in the small print when you bought or downloaded something from them. They don't need to do that to provide whatever service you originally asked them for so they can't claim it as "Legitimate interest" and have to get your explicit consent. Of course, if they've got a business model that involves monetizing your data, that might not be the way they see it. Funny thing is... certain Large Search and Social Media Outfits have just sent around a revised privacy notice with no opt-in requirement. Pass the popcorn.
     
  21. scottishwildcat macrumors regular

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    Some probably just playing it safe, but I'd guess a lot of them just did it for extra advertising ... I've certainly received a bunch from companies I'd long since forgotten about.
     
  22. wschutz macrumors 6502

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    If anything all this GDPR drama is showing is precisely the lack of preparation of major corporations who make millions in profit. It feels as if everyone has waited till the very last second to make the changes to fulfil the law, and still many have simply managed to adapt their privacy policy and put an e-mail for inquiries while they deal with it after tomorrow.

    GDPR was passed 2 years ago. Plenty of time. Little interest which is surprising anyways, as the fines are not a joke.
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    The government doesn't have to e-mail anyone about laws. There are official places to check for laws that everyone has to abide. And much less labor required. If you want to operate with EU data, you must comply with EU law, as simple as that. Thank you GDPR for imposing, for the first time ever, a proper data protection law that affects the whole planet.
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    You should consider reading GDPR again... is more than just unification and generalization of privacy and data protection legislations of EU members.
    Some EU countries had harsh ones already (Spain for example), and some others not so harsh (Sweden for example). GDPR sides with the individual and the control that the individual can do over his data. No more companies will be collecting all data from a user just because hard disk or data processing is cheap, they will have to show clearly they need that data for the business. Companies will have to give that data to the user and guarantee the user has the right to delete such data.
     
  23. SiMartin macrumors member

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    Has it? I wasn't aware of that. An email may have helped.

    Just making (continued) use of something doesn't give consent, especially if some consent was supposedly given at some point many years in the past, under other rules/terms/policies.

    Anyway, where do I go to delete my MR account and everything they have about me?
     
  24. trunten macrumors regular

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    I’m confused as to how suspending service is any different than business as usual. Surely if they hold and or process my personal information they are beholden to the GDPR whether or not I can use their app?
     
  25. rmariboe, May 24, 2018
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    Wait isn’t that exactly what I was saying only in fewer words? :)
    I didn’t know that Spain is especially harsh - I know that Germany and Denmark are though it’s not thoroughly (enough) enforced in Denmark...
    Companies are required to hand over data if the user demands so - not until then - but the interesting part is that no one is allowed to process personal data (such as religious or political stand, union memberships, sexual orientation - and anything other obscurable information that might be used for group persecution) they don’t absolutely need to in order to provide their services (plus users must be let known that processing is taking place and explicitly agree to this), and they must prove themselves able to correctly handle security revolving this data.

    Comon data such as eye color, shoe size, preferred season etc. is still “free” - except that you must be able to inform the user of the extend of- and destroy that data within a “reasonable” timeframe if requested to do so.
    Which adds a lot to backup expenses for shared platform providers ;)
     

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