Intel Announces Full Lineup of Kaby Lake Processors for iMac, MacBook Pro, and More

[Miguel Cunha]

Which is why forward-thinking design-choices such as going all USB-C/TB3 is even more important!

I agree, but that doesn't make it more upgradeable.
We need to be able (again) to switch our disks and RAM - to say the least.

A forward think choice would be to put SSD in every single model.
Nowadays, just the system itself, demands it.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

I agree, but that doesn't make it more upgradeable.
We need to be able (again) to switch our disks and RAM - to say the least.

A forward think choice would be to put SSD in every single model.
Nowadays, just the system itself, demands it.

I think that SSD IS in every MBP model now.

And would you give up 50% of your SSD speed to make it replaceable? Don't laugh. Connectors have a significant inductance characteristic (not to mention resistance), that translates to longer signal propogation delays, that translates to slower speeds.

Same thing COULD be true of the RAM; but I'm not sure if it's as big of a factor with the lower voltages and currents involved with RAM vs. SSD.

 

[Miguel Cunha]

I think that SSD IS in every MBP model now.

True, but not on every Mac, which was what I was referring to.
You are forgetting iMac and Mac Mini.

And would you give up 50% of your SSD speed to make it replaceable? Don't laugh. Connectors have a significant inductance characteristic (not to mention resistance), that translates to longer signal propogation delays, that translates to slower speeds.

Good point.
Makes sense and so far, the only acceptable reason not to be replaceable.

Same thing COULD be true of the RAM; but I'm not sure if it's as big of a factor with the lower voltages and currents involved with RAM vs. SSD.

Me neither, but I doubt it.
Following that logic, the RAM of the 27" iMac is slower than that of the 21".

I still believe there's something else going on behind the scenes and it's not tech related, but rather economic.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

True, but not on every Mac, which was what I was referring to.
You are forgetting iMac and Mac Mini.

Good point.
Makes sense and so far, the only acceptable reason not to be replaceable.

Me neither, but I doubt it.
Following that logic, the RAM of the 27" iMac is slower than that of the 21".

I still believe there's something else going on behind the scenes and it's not tech related, but rather economic.

Sure there is: GOOD connectors (and Apple specs the best) are relatively expensive, even for Apple. And when their studies show that only 10% of computer users EVER upgrade their RAM or SSD, then cost-reducing those connectors out starts to look awfully enticing to the board-members...

 

[Dustman]

I had it with intel. Where the hell is XEON PROCESSOR?!!!

They came out a month ago. There's been plenty of Xeons to come out since 2013. Apple just doesn't care enough to do a simple processor swap on their most upgradable machine.

 

[pat500000]

They came out a month ago. There's been plenty of Xeons to come out since 2013. Apple just doesn't care enough to do a simple processor swap on their most upgradable machine.

Sounds like it. March keynote rumor indicates it as well.

 

[Ferboldt]

So... When to expect new iMac's? I currently don't have a computer and need one but don't want to buy an iMac that is 502 days old.

 

[CWallace]

So... When to expect new iMac's? I currently don't have a computer and need one but don't want to buy an iMac that is 502 days old.

Most likely at either the next iPad event or WWDC.

 

[Miguel Cunha]

when their studies show that only 10% of computer users EVER upgrade their RAM or SSD, then cost-reducing those connectors out starts to look awfully enticing to the board-members...

Makes sense, but still doesn't explain the difference between 21" and 27" iMacs.

 

[CWallace]

Makes sense, but still doesn't explain the difference between 21" and 27" iMacs.

The LPDDR3 RAM that the 21" uses is only available in a soldered package form factor.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Makes sense, but still doesn't explain the difference between 21" and 27" iMacs.

Not as much profit-margin in the 21"; so it has likely been cost-reduced at every reasonable turn.

 

[Floris]

And in November we will finally be able to use this one year old tech.