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So, iMac and MBPs probably updating from march to april?

Ivy Bridge coming out CES 2012 so no point for waiting for that one.

Sandy Bridge delayed due to blah blah blah design error blah blah.

My question: Can we make a garentee that the next MBPs and iMacs will be getting Sandy Bridge? So are they having Sandy Bridge into their computers or are they just sticking with the same cpu just more clocking speed & a different GPU & a cheaper price point for RAM.
 
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What is the 24hz bug?

24P is 23.976 so there is a frame mismatch every 40 seconds if I'm not mistaken. Not a show stopper unless the user is bound and determine to use the h.264 hardware encode/decode within Sandy Bridge. Word was Intel didn't have manpower to fix in time.
 
So, iMac and MBPs probably updating from march to april?

Ivy Bridge coming out CES 2012 so no point for waiting for that one.

Sandy Bridge delayed due to blah blah blah design error blah blah.

My question: Can we make a garentee that the next MBPs and iMacs will be getting Sandy Bridge? So are they having Sandy Bridge into their computers or are they just sticking with the same cpu just more clocking speed & a different GPU & a cheaper price point for RAM.


It's hard to tell. Apple is almost never the first in line for releasing new tech. However, Apple DESPERATELY need to upgrade from their go-to Core 2 Duo. Apple will probably go Sandy Bridge if they decide to upgrade to an i-series, however, they may also release yet another C2D so that the MB and MBP will receive their long-overdue updates before we consumers throw a fit for waiting 2 long...
 
I agree, I don't think apple would ever sell the flawed chips even though it's "ok" to use them.

Really?

Have you heard about the Nvidia 8600 GPU "time bomb" fiasco? They keep "fixing" every one that fails with an identical faulty GPU.

Of course that fiasco may be exactly why they would steer clear of any potentially flawed chip-set in the future. Perhaps "lesson learned"?
 
Sandy Bridge was already released nearly a month ago. What Intel did was the right move. According to their tests, only about 5% of the users would suffer from this and it could take up to several years before this issue would show up. They could have just moved along and say there are no problems. That's what most companies do, e.g. NVidia. It took them years to admit that 8600M GT is a piece of crap and now they are replacing faulty chips with faulty chips.

I know it sucks but for once, a big company like Intel admitted that there is an issue. It's better that they discovered it now than after several years and they are actually going to do something for it. I am certain that Intel will be able to fix it, at least they have found the reason for it already.

Yes, great point. This could have been swept under the rug, but instead Intel decided to fix it right away before many of the systems hit the market. I doubt many other chip makers on the market could afford to do this.

In their press release, Intel said they would start delivering the updated chipsets at the end of this month (getting to normal volume by April). That means companies like Apple could still announce Sandy Bridge systems soon after. Here's hoping!
 
I wish we would get an Official Statement from Apple stating something about the condition on the new Macbook Pro refresh...

Just something to let us know whether or not this will delay the launch by a lot etc.
 
I wish we would get an Official Statement from Apple stating something about the condition on the new Macbook Pro refresh...

Just something to let us know whether or not this will delay the launch by a lot etc.
Apple hasn't announced any MacBook Pro refresh, it's just speculation based on their release cycles. So, I highly doubt Apple will give an official statement regarding the release date or any setbacks due to the faulty Intel chips. If we'll hear something, it will be because some inside source says so.
 
Apple could play an interesting strategic game here. Obviously supplies of the chipset will be constrained for some time as Intel replaces all units already shipped following the re-design.

Apple could use some of it's cash reserve to advance purchase all components it expects to buy from Intel within the next year or so, on the proviso that Intel supplies Apple with the revised designs first and hold's back on the rest of the PC market.

This 'investment' by Apple would stiffle the PC market for a while, allowing for the 'payback' from the investment being increased sales (market share for those analysts who think market share is more important than volume growth).

I wonder if those calls have been made already!?!
 
Apple is a minor customer for Intel...

Apple could play an interesting strategic game here. Obviously supplies of the chipset will be constrained for some time as Intel replaces all units already shipped following the re-design.

Apple could use some of it's cash reserve to advance purchase all components it expects to buy from Intel within the next year or so, on the proviso that Intel supplies Apple with the revised designs first and hold's back on the rest of the PC market.

This 'investment' by Apple would stiffle the PC market for a while, allowing for the 'payback' from the investment being increased sales (market share for those analysts who think market share is more important than volume growth).

I wonder if those calls have been made already!?!

With Apple around or below 5% in PC sales, Apple couldn't "buy out" Intel's inventory and starve the 95%.

And, even if Apple tried, I doubt that Intel would accept.
 
Apple could play an interesting strategic game here. Obviously supplies of the chipset will be constrained for some time as Intel replaces all units already shipped following the re-design.

Apple could use some of it's cash reserve to advance purchase all components it expects to buy from Intel within the next year or so, on the proviso that Intel supplies Apple with the revised designs first and hold's back on the rest of the PC market.

This 'investment' by Apple would stiffle the PC market for a while, allowing for the 'payback' from the investment being increased sales (market share for those analysts who think market share is more important than volume growth).

I wonder if those calls have been made already!?!

even if apple were able to do this, they would have to pay a large premium. most people don't want a Mac because of the price. raising the price because you paid a premium for the parts isn't going to win you most customers
 
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