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Intel Confirms Atom-based Larger iPhone (Mini-Tablet)?
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Apple is all about convergence, not divergence. Their strategy of the Mac as the digital hub has worked out very well for them, all of their devices and services relate back to that. Only with the introduction of the iPhone did we see a new, somewhat separate, platform. It's way too immature to start branching that line into distinct products in which software is incompatible.
Agree, but . .
People tend to bypass the fact that there may not be a need for lifting the device to the ear OR use an earpiece. It may not be a phone, just a tablet. Apple made a phone, yes. However they MAKE computers. They cant help it if they are good at everything.
I guess you forgot about those bluetooth earpiece headsets that everyone is using these days. You don't need a Macbook on your ear.
People tend to bypass the fact that there may not be a need for lifting the device to the ear OR use an earpiece. It may not be a phone, just a tablet. Apple made a phone, yes. However they MAKE computers. They cant help it if they are good at everything.
Well, I'll be lining up tomorrow afternoon for the Opening of Boston's new store.
And from the sound of these rumors, it looks like I'll be lining up there again the days after June 9th to actually buy something, either the 3G iPhone or this Mini-Tablet.
Hoping that BOTH products are a reality.
And from the sound of these rumors, it looks like I'll be lining up there again the days after June 9th to actually buy something, either the 3G iPhone or this Mini-Tablet.
Hoping that BOTH products are a reality.
Well, my comment was in response to all of the talk concerning having a phone option built into a tablet. The Newton-style tablet and the iPhone are two completely different beasts and they do not both need to have the same features.
Many of the posts here are people saying they want the features of a laptop or tablet in the package-size of an iPhone. This is not a realistic design or use concept. Use an iPhone if you want the phone features, music abilities, light web browsing, etc. and the tablet for more advanced capabilities and larger screen WITHOUT trying to build phone capabilities into it as well. JMO
Hmmm..
Yes the main consumers being those in fields of business. And I'm sure that many lay persons to that area would just enjoy the portability combined with the functionality.
Yes the main consumers being those in fields of business. And I'm sure that many lay persons to that area would just enjoy the portability combined with the functionality.
The consumer market is the home users: mom, dad, kids; the family, not the market in which consumption takes place.
DEFINITION: Purchasers of goods and services by consumers who personally consume or benefit from the purchased products and do not buy products primarily to make a profit, such as groceries, magazines, television sets, haircuts, etc.
People tend to bypass the fact that there may not be a need for lifting the device to the ear OR use an earpiece. It may not be a phone, just a tablet. Apple made a phone, yes. However they MAKE computers. They cant help it if they are good at everything.
See my response at #262 (at least at the time of this post).
re: iphone tablet
The fact the intel guy says the Atom will be used in an iphone doesn't mean the device has to be a phone. After all, Apple is calling the touch's operating system "iphone osx". So, the entire family of devices might be considered as iphones (including the touch). Nevertheless I don't think you'll see Apple release an iphone device on an x86 cpu because I still say Steve DOES NOT WANT WINDOWS to run on his baby.
Now, what about form factor? This whole project came about when Steve said out loud "Wouldn't it be insanely great if the whole computer was just a screen?" I really think its about the screen and readability. I'm a surgeon. I have decent eyesight, don't use reading glasses yet, but I'm over 40. I think the current screen is perfect for a phone. I already have friends who say the phone's too big, but you wouldn't want to do what iphone does on a smaller screen. However, any bigger and its too big for what we consider a cell phone. The real question is "What do you want a bigger screen for?"
1. Streaming video/ watching itunes movies IN HD. The screen needs to be in 16x9 proportions and 1080 resolution. The pixel size is currently perfect (for me) since I can't see any pixels now.
2. Reading (including ebooks) but particularly 8.5" x 11" documents. So I need an 8.5 x 11 screen, right? No, you read in landscape mode and the perfect screen size is 8" x 4.5" so the document can fit (no margins). (9.2" diagonal)
3. Remote desktop control. Current screen too small to see and control your desktop, though it is being done.
4. Use it at home, in office, etc. Sit on your couch watching the plasma with you tablet on your lap doing whatever it is you want to do (the way I use iphone) But this is not to be carried in your pocket. it is first and foremost a screen that's built for the limitations of the human visual system. After that, the software engineers get to go wild. It will be able to do EVERYTHING because it is all about getting all that data from silicon, through your eyes, then into your brain.
5. Oh yeah, it can be used as a phone, too.
The fact the intel guy says the Atom will be used in an iphone doesn't mean the device has to be a phone. After all, Apple is calling the touch's operating system "iphone osx". So, the entire family of devices might be considered as iphones (including the touch). Nevertheless I don't think you'll see Apple release an iphone device on an x86 cpu because I still say Steve DOES NOT WANT WINDOWS to run on his baby.
Now, what about form factor? This whole project came about when Steve said out loud "Wouldn't it be insanely great if the whole computer was just a screen?" I really think its about the screen and readability. I'm a surgeon. I have decent eyesight, don't use reading glasses yet, but I'm over 40. I think the current screen is perfect for a phone. I already have friends who say the phone's too big, but you wouldn't want to do what iphone does on a smaller screen. However, any bigger and its too big for what we consider a cell phone. The real question is "What do you want a bigger screen for?"
1. Streaming video/ watching itunes movies IN HD. The screen needs to be in 16x9 proportions and 1080 resolution. The pixel size is currently perfect (for me) since I can't see any pixels now.
2. Reading (including ebooks) but particularly 8.5" x 11" documents. So I need an 8.5 x 11 screen, right? No, you read in landscape mode and the perfect screen size is 8" x 4.5" so the document can fit (no margins). (9.2" diagonal)
3. Remote desktop control. Current screen too small to see and control your desktop, though it is being done.
4. Use it at home, in office, etc. Sit on your couch watching the plasma with you tablet on your lap doing whatever it is you want to do (the way I use iphone) But this is not to be carried in your pocket. it is first and foremost a screen that's built for the limitations of the human visual system. After that, the software engineers get to go wild. It will be able to do EVERYTHING because it is all about getting all that data from silicon, through your eyes, then into your brain.
5. Oh yeah, it can be used as a phone, too.
That's pretty much like every computer on the market. Except they don't glow.
Ok
LOL calm down. I know who the consumer market consists of. I wasn't barking at you. What I'm saying is the main market here will not be those that you mentioned above in entirety. Apple has been known to be a consumer company, maybe they are addressing two parties of people here, this time maybe the business person more than the ordinary consumer.
LOL calm down. I know who the consumer market consists of. I wasn't barking at you. What I'm saying is the main market here will not be those that you mentioned above in entirety. Apple has been known to be a consumer company, maybe they are addressing two parties of people here, this time maybe the business person more than the ordinary consumer.
Must be a Mac switcher (because of the superiority of the Mac) who still has deep, hidden PC tendencies.
Sorry. I think the Exchange support in iPhone OS 2.0 was a huge step forward in terms of enterprise-friendliness, but I don't see them diving head first into this space. Exchange support was just an addition to an existing product and it's unlikely they will introduce a new product where the primary focus or market will the be the enterprise.
iPad
A random thought: what if this hypothetical iPad is not really a larger phone per se, but an internet device that just so happens to use a cellular network for very mobile access? Since it wouldn't exactly be an iPhone, perhaps it could skirt the letter and spirit of their exclusive 5-year contract with AT&T and allow you to connect to some other provider's EDGE network for browsing, email, and IM even when you're not near a WiFi hotspot.
A random thought: what if this hypothetical iPad is not really a larger phone per se, but an internet device that just so happens to use a cellular network for very mobile access? Since it wouldn't exactly be an iPhone, perhaps it could skirt the letter and spirit of their exclusive 5-year contract with AT&T and allow you to connect to some other provider's EDGE network for browsing, email, and IM even when you're not near a WiFi hotspot.
Right, Exchange is a smart move on Apples part Even if it doesn't signify them choosing one market over another they are at least broadening their options. Maybe they will eventually divide the field and have a pro model and also a more ordinary everyday model.
I concur
Wow. How exciting. It's funny, but I never thought the iPad (if it actually did exist, which until now I didn't also believe) would actually be a phone. I figured on a souped up iPod touch. Maybe include BT (for headphones).
But a phone that is actually bigger than the iPhone? I dunno. The iPhone seems pretty big as is.
But a phone that is actually bigger than the iPhone? I dunno. The iPhone seems pretty big as is.
I agree but I think it would be well done if it incorporated the ability to connect to edge somehow to send important files. (Maybe to the iphone ?)
Well I mean, I think we underestimate the difference. A small increase in the length or width turns into a rather large increase in area. From 3 to 3.5 is a 16.6% increase in length (its going from a 3.5" screen to about a 4-4.25"), but in terms of area, its an increase of 36%!!! Thats huge. And thats only a moderately larger screen. A 5" which would have the same ppi would be a MASSIVE INCREASE in screen size. I mean in terms of a little bit more screen space, going to 4 or 4.25" is already quite nice, 5" would make it an oversized PDA/hand-tablet. So I guess it depends who they are targetting. Personally I think a 4.25" screen is a more than welcome increase that would still keep the iPhone very pocketable. 5" would become more of a small book but still not bad. I guess we'll see.
How sweet would this be if this was the new mac mini- think about it- dock next to your display with dvi out, all connections for the computer, you plug it in to this dock and bam- you have a desktop computer! Holy shizz they would sell millions of them.