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Doesn't anyone just long for the good old days when the only thing that you had to know about processors was that the next revision that was going to show up in a mac after about three years was going to 1.33 ghz instead of 1.2?:confused:
I have been reading all the threads and I didn't follow one bloody word of what was said!:p
So in synthesis- all this hype and there isn't the slightest chance that these new processors will end up in a Mac! I think that's about right!

So, when does Penryn get off its backside and make an appearance?

2008.
 
Confused old hack needs clarification...

QX6850 -- 3.0 GHz, Quad-core and 1333 MHz FSB -- these are the same numbers for the top-of-the-line Xeon chips...so what are the differences / advantages of the Xeons?

Is the QX6850 cheaper? (it certainly uses cheaper memory than the FB-DIMMs required by the Xeon...)

I think the Xeons are equipped to work with more than one physical CPU, like in the Mac Pros. Not seeing Xeons in iMacs.
 
But it would still be superior to a single core w/the same clock speed. I estimate 1.5x - 3x faster depending on relative sizes of the operating system and target app.
A single threaded application would still hit only one logical unit at 100% maximum. I understand that you'd have additional ones free for other operations. Clock speed still matters even in the multi-core age. You can only parallelize so many operations until you're left stalled by the slowest one.
 
"socket" is a good word

I think the Xeons are equipped to work with more than one physical CPU, like in the Mac Pros. Not seeing Xeons in iMacs.

Since each core is logically a CPU or a processor (looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, smells like a duck), it is simpler and clearer to refer to "sockets" for the physical count. An Octo MacPro is 8 CPUs, 8 cores, 8 processors and 2 sockets.

Xeons are Core 2 architecture chips that are capable of running with multiple sockets - two sockets for the version in the MacPro, an 4-way and higher are possible with other Xeon chips and chipsets.

The "Core 2" chips are single-socket only - they don't have the logic and pins to do memory and cache coherency across multiple sockets. "Merom" and "Conroe" are the codenames for the mobile and desktop single-socket "Core 2" chips.
 
New iMac

Not this week tuesday (ie tommorrow - July 17th) but next tuesday. Leaves a little more time between them and the iPhone and gives Steve time to make a Stevenote (Vote for 24th.)
I've been waiting to buy a new iMac till the new ones come out.

How many of you think mathwhiz is on the mark with his guess?
 
Since each core is logically a CPU or a processor (looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, smells like a duck), it is simpler and clearer to refer to "sockets" for the physical count. An Octo MacPro is 8 CPUs, 8 cores, 8 processors and 2 sockets.

Xeons are Core 2 architecture chips that are capable of running with multiple sockets - two sockets for the version in the MacPro, an 4-way and higher are possible with other Xeon chips and chipsets.

The "Core 2" chips are single-socket only - they don't have the logic and pins to do memory and cache coherency across multiple sockets. "Merom" and "Conroe" are the codenames for the mobile and desktop single-socket "Core 2" chips.

Hmm, I wonder if Apple will try to use a 4core Penryn as a mobile CPU in a thin MBP, next year? Nah, Alienware will do it with a thicker/gamer high-end laptop...who are we kidding, Apple is a leader in design, not topend performance on the Intel platform as far as mobile computers is concerned.

LMFAO...again, and again, and again. MR readers for the most part seem rather comatose in their narrow reality distortion mindfield, lol


105 posts, 9k views in less than a day for this frong page thread, yet no one noticed that 'other' rumor leak.

You all were utterly a sleep all weekend long then, partying, livin large?

4 posts, <400 views, several days ago....guess what, read it and weep, just a few MR readers alive over the weekend, lol...part of the illuminati clan I think ;) ?

Merom XE(1st Core 2 Extreme confirmed)
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/329528/



Now, how long do ya think it will take for the X7900 front page rumor story to be posted after I post it days or weeks before anyone notices, lol? What you say, what tis this X7900, we're talkinga bout a X7800. Snoozing again? The X7800 was rumored and posted about by me, last month, to be released in July...OMG, for real??? The X7900 is rumored (as posted by me last month) to be released in Sept. @2.8Ghz, along with the standard Merom speed boost to 2.6Ghz at that time frame.

It remains to be seen if the Merom XE in Sept. (that's the X7900 again) will be priced at that lofty premium over the 2.6Ghz Merom...I kind of doubt Apple will use any XE Merom's because of price & cause the thin cases probably can't be designed with enough cooling to do it.
 
Hmm, I wonder if Apple will try to use a 4core Penryn as a mobile CPU in a thin MBP, next year? Nah, Alienware will do it with a thicker/gamer high-end laptop...who are we kidding, Apple is a leader in design, not topend performance on the Intel platform as far as mobile computers is concerned.

LMFAO...again, and again, and again. MR readers for the most part seem rather comatose in their narrow reality distortion mindfield, lol


105 posts, 9k views in less than a day for this frong page thread, yet no one noticed that 'other' rumor leak.

You all were utterly a sleep all weekend long then, partying, livin large?

4 posts, <400 views, several days ago....guess what, read it and weep, just a few MR readers alive over the weekend, lol...part of the illuminati clan I think ;) ?

Merom XE(1st Core 2 Extreme confirmed)
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/329528/



Now, how long do ya think it will take for the X7900 front page rumor story to be posted after I post it days or weeks before anyone notices, lol? What you say, what tis this X7900, we're talkinga bout a X7800. Snoozing again? The X7800 was rumored and posted about by me, last month, to be released in July...OMG, for real??? The X7900 is rumored (as posted by me last month) to be released in Sept. @2.8Ghz, along with the standard Merom speed boost to 2.6Ghz at that time frame.

It remains to be seen if the Merom XE in Sept. (that's the X7900 again) will be priced at that lofty premium over the 2.6Ghz Merom...I kind of doubt Apple will use any XE Merom's because of price & cause the thin cases probably can't be designed with enough cooling to do it.

But it didn't make the MR news/rumor pages, so there was no "news discussion thread".
 
Hmm it seems Applestore is down :eek: go go Apple ..:D

I hate to disappoint you, but it seems to be up with me (store.apple.com is reachable without any problem whatsoever - for me) and no update yet.

I'm going with the 24th :D
 
I hate to disappoint you, but it seems to be up with me (store.apple.com is reachable without any problem whatsoever - for me) and no update yet.

I'm going with the 24th :D

Yup its back(for few mins was with the "we'll be back soon" message), oh well wishful thinking, I didn't expect anything.
If the rumours are true about new design etc. then it will be with a Boom from Steve for sure,he loves this things.:)
 
Now with all the extra heat you really will be able to cook an egg on a macbook pro. Or you could just use it inside a cooler at 7/11.
 
if the rumours about iLife going golden master are true (meaning they haven't released it yet, waiting for a time when people are spending big on that kind of thing...guessing start of school year)
it follows from this that they would double the impact with overdue iMacs and perhaps iPods
if new iMacs come...new processors...
maybe new minis to accomadate rejected processors?

on top of all this leopard in october

basically i'm saying that all these things that are overdue will come in quick succession...we know that they have had time to do all of this

if they do choose to spread it all out we'll have an exciting 6 months, culminating in iPhone for australia


sorry if i seem long winded and optimistic...but take out iPhone and laptops and apple haven't done anything for over a year
 
From my understanding pretty much all of Intel's Core processors can hit 3+ghz on Air with little to no voltage bumping. I would imagine if that is true that we could see Apple actually offer faster "factory overclocked" options. I just don't see Apple giving us the ability to set the clockspeed ourselves. Besides where would we do that at (noting that there is no hit del for bios type option during bootup)?

Apple is not really in a position to offer overclocked products, since their case designs have an emphasis on modern slimline design and asthetics, rather than effective cooling. An example of this is the MBP, which runs hotter than any other laptop (PC or Mac) that I've ever come across, but is IMHO the best looking portable out there.
 
Intel is releasing x7900 (2.8ghz) in september and bumping up standard mobile processor to 2.6ghz(T7800). One hopes apple would use t7800 is macbook pro and iMac.
 
Intel is releasing x7900 (2.8ghz) in september and bumping up standard mobile processor to 2.6ghz(T7800). One hopes apple would use t7800 is macbook pro and iMac.

Not going to happen with the Macbook Pro. It's too thin. The 7800 and 7900 are for thicker desktop replacement types.
 
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