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You are correct here.
And this would be fine if Apple lowered prices over time like every other computer hardware seller. The problem now is that if you buy a current MP you're getting older technology at the still premium technology price. I recommend to everyone to only buy a new mac within 1-3 months of release because that is when they are price comparable to other PCs.
How about...
Hey Apple.. how about you just friggin' release these. Apple updating products once a year, means they're only a good deal for 2 or 3 months (until everyone else has faster computers for sale). I need one for work, but I can't keep waiting. If a new Mac Pro doesn't come out for another month, I will have to buy a PC. Why would I buy a 1 year old Mac at full price?!
Hey Apple.. how about you just friggin' release these. Apple updating products once a year, means they're only a good deal for 2 or 3 months (until everyone else has faster computers for sale). I need one for work, but I can't keep waiting. If a new Mac Pro doesn't come out for another month, I will have to buy a PC. Why would I buy a 1 year old Mac at full price?!
Very true. Plus the perception is starting to hurt. Macs are still known for stylish machines, but losing the perception of also being performance-based as well. PC folks can (as of now) claim that Macs are style over substance in terms of hardware availability.
WOW,
I hope Apple will finally take care of the pro community ..... and Cinema Display 30" or larger.
it's about time!!!!!!
Why does Apple have to build a screen. There is no incentive for Apple to compete with other vendors for separate screens. There is a standard connector ( so they can't really make it proprietary, beyond going with the annoy mini-DisplayPort .... which will be an adopted/deployed standard soon. )
Between vendors like Ezio (or LaCie ) and top end NEC (SprectraViewII) on the high end color corrected front and top end Dells, HPs, Samsung prosumer IPS panel front, you can't find a monitor whose output meets or exceeds Apple's stuff? May not be exactly enclosure color coordinated with Apple looks but the images coming off the screen. However, the exact same monitor is needed in the much larger overall PC/Workstation market. The same vendors who fill that space for Windows/Linux are very likely going to be able to fill that space for the MacPro. The connectors are standard. Apple doesn't really sell integrated color correction ( so some vendor needs to fill those sensors also. )
This is very similar to the disappearance of XRaid. A very nice box but all of the connection were standard and there are other quality players out there who have much bigger market to leverage than just Mac market.
Additionally, Apple doesn't have to compete for monitors for those enclosed with the rest of the computer. Why compete if don't have to.
Apple will still sell the 24" display since it is in part a "docking station" with MagSafe , USB , mini-Display three headed hydra connection solution.
(none of which needed for Mac Pro ).
It has been what 3 years since a upper level Cinema Display. You think needed that much time to do one if wanted to? The 30" Display as McCoy would put it: "He's dead Jim".
I agree because it's the same here as far as it hopefully being my first Mac Pro. I just hope they keep the same case because they have had years to perfect it and work out all the kinks. I don't want to be a beta tester for a new case. I'd like to avoid early adopter problems - 27" iMac as an example.
Your reputation on these forums means those types of jokes dont really work. People think youre serious!
Yes. But these are not the apps most consumers run.
Logic is a good example. It will use as many cores as are available. Aperture and FInal Cut. Basically Apple's line of Pro Apps.
But if you are using a Mac to play a DVD, then no your 2 hour movie will not play in 20 minutes. Web pages will not load faster with 12 cores. Most people don't need this but a lot of people do.
Bloomfield/Gulftown emphasize the benefits of their platforms more so than the processing power over Lynnfield. Lynnfield has a much more aggressive Turbo Boost for single and dual threaded applications. It's a two chip system (CPU + PCH) for a cooler platform in smaller machines. You just don't get the triple channel RAM and 36 PCIe 2.0 lanes though.
Not really if those same "faster" computers are dependent upon the exact same fundamental part. If Intel continues the track of introducing next gen Xeons in March/April time frame each year then once a year for Apple works.
It is also not like computers stop being useful or competitive after a couple of months. If doing any amount of significant engineering you need to have a couple design/develop/test cycles to get a decent update out. That is going to take a while unless have overlapping development teams. Apple's issue is that there is most likely one team for a specific product. If a team can get out one substantially new thing a year you get update a year.
Apple releasing 3 weeks before Dell and HP last year didn't "doom" them last year. If Apple releases +/- 3 weeks around Intel's release not going to be a big deal.
In fact it would be better if Apple established a regular expectation date for high ticket item updates. Puzzled why Apple does this for iPods and iPhones ( update the same time each year) and does NOT do this with "enterprise"/"business" hardware. Making people's purchase order planning process smoother would be a plus.
Time for a redesign of the Mac Pro and Mac mini. The iMac gets a refresh pretty much every year as do the majority of the laptops. Yet the desktop items are still using cases from 5+ years ago.
Im not asking for much, perhaps a nip and tuck here or there on the Mac Pro, add some chrome and black to the mix. Same goes for the mini (and Apple TV)... round off some edges and modify the colors up a little bit.
I would also like to see eSATA added to the Mac Pro as a standard connection. Just one port.... that's all I ask.... right now at least.
Im not asking for much, perhaps a nip and tuck here or there on the Mac Pro, add some chrome and black to the mix. Same goes for the mini (and Apple TV)... round off some edges and modify the colors up a little bit.
I would also like to see eSATA added to the Mac Pro as a standard connection. Just one port.... that's all I ask.... right now at least.
See, when a microprocessor designer reads that, it reads as "Lynnfield is much more crippled when it uses all cores."
Don't know how Intel tricked people into thinking that clock throttling is now clock boosting.
I agree with letting Apple take the time necessary to make this awesome. As it stands not a lot of Applications will take advantage (except servers) of the new technology right away.
Apple needs to drop the prices on the current Mac Pro's and put more resources into actually implementing the new technology properly. Apple always seems to be playing catch up and wrapping it up in a pretty bow.
Apple needs to drop the prices on the current Mac Pro's and put more resources into actually implementing the new technology properly. Apple always seems to be playing catch up and wrapping it up in a pretty bow.
Not by the looks of it.
I know that Neowin had an Apple employee who was a regular there, up until about a year and a half ago. No sign of her since that time.
That's fine, but then just give us a ETA. I can work with that as long as I know when.
It's against the NDA to post or promote yourself as a current Apple employee on message boards and social networking sites. Though, as of late (right before I left Apple a few years ago), Facebook was beginning to become acceptable as long as you did not offer advice to people are speak about products.