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How long can optical Thunderbolt cables be? I know ethernet can be up to 100m. If optical Thunderbolt can go longer, that may one reason to use TB instead of ethernet.

Optical is supposed to expand this to 100 m, but if we want to be practical: over copper you'll get about 3m max. I don't think this is the kind of link most people will want to maintain permanently, at least not now.
 
Truly amazing......

if this hardware implementation works as tought. And not only from the troubleshooting POV.....:D

Nice to see something like this. I echo another posters for the petition for cheaper cables. And peripherals.....Nicely done, Intel....



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How long can optical Thunderbolt cables be? I know ethernet can be up to 100m. If optical Thunderbolt can go longer, that may one reason to use TB instead of ethernet.

Optical thunderbolt is supposed to match the 100m provided by ethernet, and the cost will be much higher. It's also much less ubiquitous. That won't be practical for the foreseeable future. Consider that CAT7 can easily be cut and crimped on site.
 
Would be interesting to see a Thunderbolt switch. I work in a school district and every year, all of the student & staff computers get reimaged. Reimaging would be so much faster over Thunderbolt. And for those who are interested, my district uses Deploystudio

I hope they do a switch soon...
No body wants to go back to ring networks. :p
 
You can already do that as long as you have DisplayPort output (or DVI/HDMI that you can adapt to DisplayPort). Thunderbolt ports double as regular old DisplayPort.

Not with thunderbolt iMac's. Target display mode doesn't recognize PC's with thunderbolt (yet), only Mac's.
 
re: cheaper external drive enclosures

No, he's still right, IMO. The Pegasus unit is great and yes, is much more than just a box of drives ... but it's STILL about 2x overpriced, compared to what one would think something like it would cost.

I think Promise just commands a premium because they released it as one of the first Thunderbolt solutions with hardware RAID for more than 2 mirrored drives, and they built it with relatively good quality construction.

I just ordered an eBox (hopefully getting it on Friday). At $699 on Amazon, it seems pretty comparable, feature-wise, to a Pegasus.

http://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolt-t...d=1397054678&sr=8-1&keywords=eBox+thunderbolt


Ah yes, but the Pegasus units are more than simple storage. I hear you on price, but you must realise that the high-level RAID controllers in them demand a certain price markup accordingly:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18965701


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https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z77V_PREMIUM/

That's one solution, at least.

How many Pcs have thunderbolt though?
 
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Optical thunderbolt is supposed to match the 100m provided by ethernet, and the cost will be much higher. It's also much less ubiquitous. That won't be practical for the foreseeable future. Consider that CAT7 can easily be cut and crimped on site.

Fair enough. If optical TB was able to go significantly longer, that would be one thing. But if it's the same length, I don't see any real reason to switch to TB over ethernet.
 
Fair enough. If optical TB was able to go significantly longer, that would be one thing. But if it's the same length, I don't see any real reason to switch to TB over ethernet.

The point is that it's much faster than what comes with your computer, and is included at no additional cost. At this point it's use would be file sharing between two computers or on a small local network perhaps.
 
Has anyone tried Mac to Mac Thunderbolt Networking?
Does it work in Mavericks?
Is it easy to set-up?
 
Apple should've made TB a open licensing program instead of giving it all to Intel.

Intel designed and developed it all the from the beginning, there was nothing to give.

All Apple had was the trademark "Thunderbolt" and their free license for the connector.
 
I'm not seeing Thunderbolt catching on much for the normal consumer but I hope it changes soon. But I could be wrong, its just what I see
 
Intel designed and developed it all the from the beginning, there was nothing to give.

All Apple had was the trademark "Thunderbolt" and their free license for the connector.

My understanding is that Apple was the client that asked Intel to develop the new technology and in exchange of building it, Apple would give Intel the rights.

There is a reason why Intel first built it out on Mac Pro prototypes. I doubt anybody else would have the rights to do that.

Not to mention, Engadget had a reliable source that said the same thing: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated-light-peak-creation-to-intel-could-be/

If you're right that Intel did everything and Apple had no parts in its development, then why did they care about Apple's trademark/connector? Intel was the guys behind USB, they could've come up with a better name/connector on their own.
 
My understanding is that Apple was the client that asked Intel to develop the new technology and in exchange of building it, Apple would give Intel the rights.

There is a reason why Intel first built it out on Mac Pro prototypes. I doubt anybody else would have the rights to do that.

Not to mention, Engadget had a reliable source that said the same thing: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated-light-peak-creation-to-intel-could-be/

If you're right that Intel did everything and Apple had no parts in its development, then why did they care about Apple's trademark/connector? Intel was the guys behind USB, they could've come up with a better name/connector on their own.

That still does not change the fact that from it is Intel's product and was never being developed by Apple. The only thing Apple had was the trademark on what they wanted to call it, not the original name of Lightpeak.

They cared about the trademark because of the confusion of two names and Intel wanted to have one brand. Also since this was a product they were developing for mainly Apple they chose a connector that Apple utilizes. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
 
Wow. I literally have my iMac plugged in right now to my NUC via Thunderbolt. I guess I am of the small minority who has actually been waiting for this to happen.

So this is what it feels like to belong to the "1%" of something.

I am wondering how this is working for you; I'd like to build a custom Linux pc for GPU rendering and perhaps use as a NAS but would consider investing in Thunderbolt on the pc if it means substantially faster performance than Gb LAN.

In other words, I would like to use the pc drives (SSD and / or RAID) like DAS at Thunderbolt speed!

Have you tried something like this?
 
Welcome to 2002 intel. We’ve had 10Gb networking for years...

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Probably not, but if you compare to 10GbE stuff Thunderbolt is dirt cheap. It's great to get 10Gb/s networking out of the box. Normally it's unavailable on laptops, and the PCIe card required will set you back $500 or so. Per computer (not including cables).

Cat6 cable is so cheap. You can get 100 meters for 100$

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How long can optical Thunderbolt cables be? I know ethernet can be up to 100m. If optical Thunderbolt can go longer, that may one reason to use TB instead of ethernet.

Well there are optical cables for ethernet and such as well.
 
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