Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Hopefully, Intel is also working on S2 or S3, bringing LTE to Apple Watch (I have the first generation Apple Watch and I won't upgrade until Apple makes tether-free version).
 
The inevitable shift to unified SoC is something it would be nice to have an experienced fab shop do. Today that means Samsung, TSMC, Intel. That's it. In the past Intel was unwilling to price them low enough to be in the running.

The other under the radar news is the new Intel and Micron 3D memory. China tried to buy Micron. It would nice to get most of Apple's internals with one USA vendor.
State-Owned Chinese Chip Maker Tsinghua Unigroup Makes $23 Billion Bid for Micron http://www.wsj.com/articles/state-o...up-makes-23-billion-bid-for-micron-1436833492
 
You mean the difference between "1,000 employees" and "1.000 employees" :)

Not really. 1 megabyte (MB) is 8X (I rounded to 10X) as much as 1 megabit (Mb), same as 1 byte is 8 bits.

I think you're thinking MB vs. KB (or Mb vs. Kb).

So 450Mb/s (which is most likely what the author meant) comes out to roughly 45MB/s.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TT D'arby
Well, the former Head of RF Engineering and CTO for Infineon is a Senior Director of Wireless Architecture at Apple now. :(
Good. I'm sure the issues of the past were well researched, and he's a great person to ensure they don't happen again.

People usually learn from their mistakes. Trying to burn people at the stake instead of letting them learn and improve is only going to lead to worse products or services in the future.
 
Intel is so desperate to enter the mobile space that Apple is probably getting these chips for free.

And maybe they should, since they would be taking such a risk with an unproven device and supplier. A massive recall of iPhones would be devastating to Apple.
Unproven device and supplier? It's essentially the supplier they used up until the iPhone 4, except under a different name then.

I love seeing those wannabe analysts on Macrumors...
 
Good. I'm sure the issues of the past were well researched, and he's a great person to ensure they don't happen again.

People usually learn from their mistakes. Trying to burn people at the stake instead of letting them learn and improve is only going to lead to worse products or services in the future.
Nobody is burning anyone at the stake. Relax.
 
and this may be the reason why this rumor never makes it. I can just see the negotiations now -
Intel - we have a better modem
Apple - cool, will take a billion
Intel - just one thing, you will need to add the intel inside logo to your device
Apple - Oh... Well.... Um.... never mind; deal off; have a nice day.
Tim - Eddy call qualcomm

Our Macs have an Intel processor inside and there is not an Intel Inside logo on them.
 
More bands, yes.

But why make faster LTE chips?

Sure, it's neat and for future-proofing, but.

Most of us are stuck with carriers that do not offer unlimited data. Faster LTE encourages more data use (although that's dependent on how much you load data through cellular on your phone).

This is just why I think. Faster LTE isn't too important. I'd just like more power-efficient LTE modems. LTE uses a ton of power.
 
I can almost guarantee there will be people exchanging their iPhone 7 that has the Intel chip for a phone that has the Qualcomm chip. Someone will do a test and the Qualcomm chip will have an average DL speed on XXX network of 80 Mbs, while the Intel chip will average 79 Mbs. Oh the uproar!
 
As an engineer in the chip industry, somebody is overestimating how many people are working on this chip.
They must be counting everybody including tool vendors.
No way 1000 people are working on a LTE modem chip.
 
gnasher729 said:
You mean the difference between "1,000 employees" and "1.000 employees"

Not really. 1 megabyte (MB) is 8X (I rounded to 10X) as much as 1 megabit (Mb), same as 1 byte is 8 bits.

I think you're thinking MB vs. KB (or Mb vs. Kb).

So 450Mb/s (which is most likely what the author meant) comes out to roughly 45MB/s.

Or maybe gnasher729 was making fun of the possible one character typo (i.e. , vs .)
 
Intel does make some of the best performance chips so should be good for upcoming Apple products.

I think Apple's just going with intel mainly because of the small 14-nanometer process.


That's always gonna be a winner regardless. It's like getting all your xmas presents at once :D
 
This sounds like Apple Watch will be getting an internal cell radio to be completely independent of the iPhone.
 
Unproven device and supplier? It's essentially the supplier they used up until the iPhone 4, except under a different name then.

I love seeing those wannabe analysts on Macrumors...
What does that mean, "under a different name then"? The supplier for the main processor in the iPhones has always been Samsung, up until they started using TSMC last generation. There has never been an Intel processor inside.
 
Unproven device and supplier? It's essentially the supplier they used up until the iPhone 4, except under a different name then.

I love seeing those wannabe analysts on Macrumors...

Do you mean Infineon, who they dumped in 2010? When 3G was all the rage? Yeah, 5 years in nothing in the tech industry. And being dumped by Apple is a great vote of confidence. Great analysis. Really superb. You must do this for a living!
 
Do you mean Infineon, who they dumped in 2010? When 3G was all the rage? Yeah, 5 years in nothing in the tech industry. And being dumped by Apple is a great vote of confidence. Great analysis. Really superb. You must do this for a living!

Word on the Internet at that time was, Apple only dumped Infineon because of the Intel takeover. Which is very understanding.

The moment one company takes over another you can expect everything to be delayed by a month or 2 before things get back on usually business.

It also had a lot to do with Infineon not making CDMA chips.


At the end of the day it's whoever has the best package. If Intel is putting this much man power behind it, then it might be promising.

They have proven they are capable of meeting apples demands. Everyone is complaining about intels progress lately but they have made huge strides to make apple happy. Energy efficiency and integrated graphics being some of them
 
Last edited:
What does that mean, "under a different name then"? The supplier for the main processor in the iPhones has always been Samsung, up until they started using TSMC last generation. There has never been an Intel processor inside.

He was referring to Infineon who used to supple the iPhone Modem chips before Intel took took them over.
 
Actually that's entirely untrue. Intel doesn't have extensive experience at producing wireless modems, and it's challenging to the point of being a black art.

Not all chips are the same, and just because you've produced CPUs doesn't mean you're going to be good at producing modems. The fact that they're throwing staff at the problem doesn't bode well, since that tends to make things worse than better.

Also the main foundries are already working on sub 14nm technologies, and have been for some time.

Don't forget that Intel's modem team was purchased from Infineon a couple years ago. This is the same Infineon team that produced the modems for the early iPhones (through iPhone 4), so really, if this is true, that means they are going back to the same team/supplier they used before. Now it has a new name (Intel).
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.