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Yet a 800MHz processor in a 2014 MacBook Air? Hell no!
You do realize there is a Turbo Mode? 800MHz isn't the end of the story. To be able to run at lower clock speeds when all the power isn't needed, is progress. Longer battery life for thinner, lighter and quieter MacBook Airs.
 
Lulz at anyone thinking arm can compete with intel running full os.

Like trying to put a jet ski engine in a F350 to pull a boat to the lake.
 
Lulz at anyone thinking arm can compete with intel running full os.

Like trying to put a jet ski engine in a F350 to pull a boat to the lake.

The only people who think that also think that, for whatever reason, they can just ramp up the clock speed and beat out Intel. They don't factor in anything else in what makes a computer fast, or slow, just CPU clock speed.
 
What is really disappoint is how ignorant people are with respect to technology.

First; many of Intels Mobile chips can only address 16GB of RAM. If you order a Mac, using such chips, with 16 GB of RAM there is no possible upgrade path.

Second; the industry is moving to faster and faster RAM interfaces and in Apples case very low power RAM in the new Minis. This requires soldered on RAM. Here is a brief explanation of some of the more common features of LPDDR3: http://www.virtium.com/blog/ddr3l-vs-lpddr3/

Third; soldered in RAM is only a stepping stone to RAM built into the processor module. See Knights Landing info for where Intel is going here. This of course is a Xeon Phi but workstation tech eventually works it's way down into the desktop. Why would they do this? Performance actually RAM is a huge bottle neck for today's processors and to go faster you need very fast and short buses to the CPU chip.

Fourth; what is all of your whining about hard drives? Hard drives are still upgradable in all Macs. Further the external storage solutions available these days are not excessive slow. Storage just isn't the problem it use to be.

Gosh what an arrogant ass you are with that opening sentence.

Because maybe I want to buy 8gb now as that's more than adequate, and in a couple years when OS X needs more I can buy it at that point. You're just making excuses.

Here read about how difficult it is now to upgrade just Mac Minis:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/1...e_mac_mini_the_best_and_worst_of_both_worlds/

"Moreover, being able to upgrade your system as you need — rather than investing all at the start – is half the point of buying a desktop rather than a laptop. "
 
Seems like Intel is really struggling to compete with ARM in this category. I can't imagine Intel will be used for much longer in the MBA. With the performance of the A8X it would seem logical for Apple to move to ARM in the next couple years.

Yes,

Apple needs to stop using Intel, they are bad CPUs,low performance and inferior and should not be an in apple product.

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You do realize there is a Turbo Mode? 800MHz isn't the end of the story. To be able to run at lower clock speeds when all the power isn't needed, is progress. Longer battery life for thinner, lighter and quieter MacBook Airs.

Yes. And no Intel.

The sooner Intel is out of business the better for all of us. Sick and tired of their bad products.

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There is no way Apple is releasing an 800mhz MacBook Air, that's just a throwback idea from well over a decade ago.

So amazing battery life is a throwback?

Enjoy your Intel.
 
Hello, angry opinionated new guy!

...show me a CPU that performs better.

I don't care about " better "

I care about battery life and youtube and open office, thats it. Like maybe .5% of people use the power of Intels CPUs to their real extent.

Who cares about performance? It doens't matter.

If Apple keeps using Intel, their battery life will keep sucking.

Wanna compare battery life on my iPad Air vs your Intel book? Won't even be close.

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You do realize there is a Turbo Mode? 800MHz isn't the end of the story. To be able to run at lower clock speeds when all the power isn't needed, is progress. Longer battery life for thinner, lighter and quieter MacBook Airs.

Exactly, thats what these Intel fan boys keep saying " AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PERFORMANCE "

How much does a word processor, and photo and video viewer need?

Not an i7, thats what.
 
Wanna compare battery life on my iPad Air vs your Intel book? Won't even be close.

Doesn't the Haswell based 13-inch Macbook Air get around 9-12 hours of battery life during normal usage? Last I checked, that's about on par with the iPad Air.

Yeah, you'd probably drain the battery in about 5 hours if you were using something heavy like Photoshop, but hell, the same thing would happen with the iPad. I've used a few apps on my iPad that drained the battery down like a kindergartner on a juice box.
 
Doesn't the Haswell based 13-inch Macbook Air get around 9-12 hours of battery life during normal usage? Last I checked, that's about on par with the iPad Air.

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I get around 14, and I mournfully do own a Macbook Air, I get MAYBE 5 hours if I am doing something useful away from the plug.

If it was ARM based, I could bet money that the battery life of a Macbook AIr would be 20 hours plus.

Die Intel, your ship sailed in 1997, let a real company and REAL engineers do it now.
 
I get around 14, and I mournfully do own a Macbook Air, I get MAYBE 5 hours if I am doing something useful away from the plug.

Is it the Haswell Air? You might be comparing apples to oranges here.

If it was ARM based, I could bet money that the battery life of a Macbook AIr would be 20 hours plus.

Doubt it. ARM chips aren't that much more efficient when it comes to watts spent to performance gained.
 
I get around 14, and I mournfully do own a Macbook Air, I get MAYBE 5 hours if I am doing something useful away from the plug.

If it was ARM based, I could bet money that the battery life of a Macbook AIr would be 20 hours plus.

Die Intel, your ship sailed in 1997, let a real company and REAL engineers do it now.

If you were using your iPad Air as hard as your MacBook Air, you'd likely get less battery life.
 
How isn't it?

Sure, you can play a few bad ports on Mac for gaming, but oin the iPad, tons of games.

I can't think of one maintream game thats as good as an iPad game.

Have you ever gamed on a Mac? I have. The iPad can't even say it has a game as good as DotA 2 or LoL, let alone Diablo 3 or any big AAA game.
 
How isn't it?

Sure, you can play a few bad ports on Mac for gaming, but oin the iPad, tons of games.

I can't think of one maintream game thats as good as an iPad game.

World of Warcraft? Team Fortress 2? Counter Strike: Source?
 
How isn't it?

Sure, you can play a few bad ports on Mac for gaming, but oin the iPad, tons of games.

I can't think of one maintream game thats as good as an iPad game.

You can run Windows very easily on a Mac via Bootcamp, which allows you to play any Windows game that your hardware supports. You can't do this on an iPad.
 
I get around 14, and I mournfully do own a Macbook Air, I get MAYBE 5 hours if I am doing something useful away from the plug.

If it was ARM based, I could bet money that the battery life of a Macbook AIr would be 20 hours plus.

Die Intel, your ship sailed in 1997, let a real company and REAL engineers do it now.

You wouldn't get that kind of battery life when factoring in components such as the display. You attribute way too much of it to the processor and graphics then tack on random nonsense about intel.
 
The only people who think that also think that, for whatever reason, they can just ramp up the clock speed and beat out Intel. They don't factor in anything else in what makes a computer fast, or slow, just CPU clock speed.

Oh my god I think toads are going to rain from the sky! I actually 100% agre with something you have posted... what is the world coming to?

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How isn't it?

Sure, you can play a few bad ports on Mac for gaming, but oin the iPad, tons of games.

I can't think of one maintream game thats as good as an iPad game.

Join Date: Nov 2014?

Something tells me you've illicitly rejoined this forum after being banned for trolling too hard...
 
I have no problem with Apple creating slower, thinner, cooler laptops. Maybe the market exist. Many people use their laptops for simple word processing, facebook, ,and youtube which you can do on an iPad.


What bothers me is that they apply that mentality to the "Pro" laptops too. There are people out there who do not mind if their laptop is going to be .3mm thicker, 0.2 pounds heavier, and will have 6 hours of battery life instead of 10 given that will be a top performer with a current GPU

Couldnt agree more, it also bothers me that ppl eat it all up to, 16/64/128 gig iphones 6's identical in every other way which prob costs apple an extra $10 to double each ones memory. Then they charge HUGE mark ups for you to get the same phone with more memory, oh and the kicker that memory is removable in almost every other phone. They are the GODS of marketing.

I bet we could have had a quadcore 13inch to make it 'pro' in more than just title by now if they hadnt kept on the thinner band wagon.
 
I have no problem with Apple creating slower, thinner, cooler laptops. Maybe the market exist. Many people use their laptops for simple word processing, facebook, ,and youtube which you can do on an iPad.


What bothers me is that they apply that mentality to the "Pro" laptops too. There are people out there who do not mind if their laptop is going to be .3mm thicker, 0.2 pounds heavier, and will have 6 hours of battery life instead of 10 given that will be a top performer with a current GPU

And yet we still buy them because they're sleek, look nice, have MAC OS, they are minimalistic without any unnecessary ports or DVD-players, reliable hardware and quite fast.

Anyway, right now I back at school doing my PHD and also do some work and I'm traveling a lot. I need my computer to have a long battery life, word etc programs, some apps like podradio etc, spotify and some other stuff. I bring my Ipad sometime, but when I have to do a lot of research and writing I need my MBA 13 which I think is a little to big. Personally, for me, this new mac would come very well in hand. Doing my PHD in social sciences / Philosophy so I only need word and open PDF files - so I would be more than set.
 
People, the lowest state of the processor is 1.1/1.2Ghz. It can turbo up to 2.9Ghz, which IS faster than the current model (tops out at 2.7Ghz). This will just give you longer battery life for when the performance isn't needed.

It's a step forward, not backwards. Especially given the TDP of only 4.5W.

Finally. Someone who actually can understand what the actual speed of the processor is! Personally, I'm looking forward to this for a few reasons:
1) Comparing the i5 on the current MBA and the fastest Core M, the Core M is much better
2) The Core M is about $100 cheaper than the current i5, possibly that extra $100 saved will be put to a better use (such as a Retina Display)
3) Since the Core M only uses 4.5 watts, the extra watts (about 10 I think) could be used to help power a Retina Display (I don't know exactly though if that's enough)
 
Finally. Someone who actually can understand what the actual speed of the processor is! Personally, I'm looking forward to this for a few reasons:
1) Comparing the i5 on the current MBA and the fastest Core M, the Core M is much better
2) The Core M is about $100 cheaper than the current i5, possibly that extra $100 saved will be put to a better use (such as a Retina Display)
3) Since the Core M only uses 4.5 watts, the extra watts (about 10 I think) could be used to help power a Retina Display (I don't know exactly though if that's enough)

Is that why last generation scores higher on benchmarks in comparison to Core M? Because Core M is better?
 
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