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Intel Launches New Broadwell Core M Processors, Likely Destined for Apple's Ultra-Slim Notebook
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So... relatively weak (but power efficient) processors... and Retina in the new Macbook Air?
I hope those integrated Intel graphics are hella powerful.
Yeah, it's like the next iPad 3. I'll just wait until 6 months after it's released when Apple quietly releases a vastly improved version of it.
Honestly though, 12" is too small. I have a 13" MBA now and I feel like this is the smallest screen that's practical for me to use. I hope Apple doesn't force me to get a MBP in order to get a 13" screen, because I really love the form factor of my Air.
i can absolutely imagine it. they will just make the entry model 100 bucks cheaper.
It seems that Lenovo didn't implement the Broadwell correctly. Instead of correct 4.5 watt, Lenovo went for 3.5 watt which is not proper parameter so it resulted in constant throttling. Lenovo also went for much smaller battery, 44Wh, while Macbooks have 54. So I wouldn't dismiss the Broadwell chips entirely. I have a remarkable battery life on macbook air 11 inch 2013 model and I only can guess that broadwell will improve further, either performance or battery life or maybe both.
The MR article doesn't mention what is probably the most notable feature of this new batch of higher-end Core M chips: they can be used up to 6W. So more heat but higher performances than at the default 4.5W TDP. Don't expect a fanless design at 6W though nor to support high density screens, as intel specs for Core M indicate.
I have no problem with Apple creating slower, thinner, cooler laptops. Maybe the market exist. Many people use their laptops for simple word processing, facebook, ,and youtube which you can do on an iPad.
What bothers me is that they apply that mentality to the "Pro" laptops too. There are people out there who do not mind if their laptop is going to be .3mm thicker, 0.2 pounds heavier, and will have 6 hours of battery life instead of 10 given that will be a top performer with a current GPU
What bothers me is that they apply that mentality to the "Pro" laptops too. There are people out there who do not mind if their laptop is going to be .3mm thicker, 0.2 pounds heavier, and will have 6 hours of battery life instead of 10 given that will be a top performer with a current GPU
I don't get the point of bashing on the frequency of the cpu's? CPU speed has been steadily decreasing since reaching a peak with the Pentium 4 Prescott series and performance has quadrupled. My MBA's 1.7ghz i5 surely runs circles around my fastest overlocked Pentium 4 of the day. These CPU's will most likely in no way be slower than the CPUs before them.
Now that you bring this up, this remind me of the original iPad launch. People were expecting a laptop that you can flip and use the screen as a touch device and write on it. Instead they got a large iphone. Maybe its finally happening.
LOL. Stop whining about the GPU. The MBP usually has very nice GPUs, they just don't right now because Apple designed the motherboard for this years GPUs with Broadwell in mind and Intel screwed them. Apple can't simply design a Haswell motherboard with a modern GPU over lunch- motherboard design takes a full year. So instead they did a drop in CPU update to last years model and called it a day. Go whine about Intel if you want.
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Correct. Intel TDP numbers are now meaningless.
I think this is further evolution of the MBA, with a more powerful chip yet good battery life and RETINA screens. As for Macbooks Pro, non-Retina options remain, and at a cheaper price point. I guess current Intel CPUs for not good enough for MBA to go retina way, so Apple chose Broadwell, which is fine with me. As for those who value performance over battery life, much more powerful and both Retina Macbook Pros are available. I do not think this is however the intended ipad pro; I never heard that OS X can go fully touch based; instead adding sensitivity levels to iPad and maybe some kind of cursor based input (for cases you prefer mouse or trackpad over touchscreen), will be enough for iOS to become iOS pro; to be honest, I never thought that big enough market may exist for iPads Pro, but maybe there are enough artists and people used to writing to justify the additional cost of sensitivity levels.
Neat....
I will be interested to see if Intel and Apple are so confident with fan-less systems, i'd like to run up Handbrake numinous times and/or do 1080p in iMovie to test this.
All chips overheat..... and being fans-less,,,, i just can't see how this is even possible, Regardless of how "low power" u try and make anything,,, heats still comes off.
It's also an only reason why they can get faster too, but then u generate more heat.
(Edits: no one like the current Fan noise?? Just sit back and relax, and it sounds like a wind tunnel.. Who wouldn't want this ?)
I will be interested to see if Intel and Apple are so confident with fan-less systems, i'd like to run up Handbrake numinous times and/or do 1080p in iMovie to test this.
All chips overheat..... and being fans-less,,,, i just can't see how this is even possible, Regardless of how "low power" u try and make anything,,, heats still comes off.
It's also an only reason why they can get faster too, but then u generate more heat.
(Edits: no one like the current Fan noise?? Just sit back and relax, and it sounds like a wind tunnel.. Who wouldn't want this ?)
I won't buy an ARM based MBA because, unfortunately, even though I don't want to, I must dual boot over to Windies from time to time... Windies WTF autocorrect... Anyway. I guess Windies lol could run via emulated X86 instruction set, but goddam they would be so dog slow I don't think I could stand it.
MHz is truly a poor metric for performance. As I said earlier, this can be shown by the fact that an Intel CPU completely destroys an ARM-based CPU running at the same frequency. CPU architecture is why 800 MHz is not the bottleneck you'd think it would be. Turbo-boost makes a tremendous difference for 99% of users, and for the rest (those who run CPU-heavy tasks), turbo-boost typically kicks-in anyway, assuming the CPU is operating below its TDP. The MHz metric is absolutely irrelevant, based on how modern Intel CPUs work.
I noticed that they get more than double the clock speeds from "turbo boost", which is much more of a boost compared to i5/i7. So they're efficient because they essentially underclock automatically to very low speeds when not in "turbo" mode? I honestly know very little about CPUs.
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The clock speed is meaningless because you're missing some factors unless you're comparing the same type and generation of processors. There were 3.0GHz Pentium 4 processors back in the day.
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The clock speed is meaningless because you're missing some factors unless you're comparing the same type and generation of processors. There were 3.0GHz Pentium 4 processors back in the day.
Everyone does realize that the article even makes it clear that the 800 MHz models are the lowest tier and Apple is allegedly considering the "higher end" 1.2 GHz chips, right? That's not a dramatic difference but its something that seems to be distorted here.
Not this ARM thing again. Would you please show us some benchmarks where an ARM chip comes even close to what the Core M 5Y71 can do in a laptop?
The fact that Broadwell's been delayed means nothing when Intel is the only one shipping *anything* at 14nm. So what if they're struggling with their own schedule when Apple's "on time" process is 20nm? This idea that Apple could do it better is nothing more than unrealistic speculation.
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It is actually a dramatic difference. Starting from 800 MHz, an increase to 1.2 GHz is 50% more speed with IPC constant
I wonder if a laptop could get away with passively cooling the 6W mode. Then the base clock would increase even more, to 1.4 GHz. Anyone know if that's realistic?
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This just doesn't make sense. Speed issues aside, that heat will still be dissipated through the device. It's not like an iPad has a fan, so it's *obviously* possible.
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