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Intel Launches New Core i5, i7 Haswell Processors Possibly Slated for Retina MacBook Pro Refresh
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DDR4? You'll need to wait until 2016 for that to become mainstream. Oh and it will be expensive too. Those dreaming of >32GB upgrades will get a shock when they see the prices.
What's the difference anyways? The current rMBPs are terrific machines. Fast, slick, capable, everything you could want. The spec whores are never happy so forget them. Broad well, has well, bobwell, whatever.
Just buy a damned computer and enjoy it.
Just buy a damned computer and enjoy it.
I disagree the haswell macbook update extended battery life by a massive margin as it included changes to the OS as well and a pretty major change in what intel was trying to achieve with power and processor performance. These slight bumps can be huge bumps depending on what comes along with them.
I agree though that this latest update is probably more of a spec bump or refining of the previous overhaul.
We all have to repeat this wisdom so often that MR should just put it in the buyers guide.
Though I can understand those who hem and haw about buying a new mac. Invariably, they have an older model that is working fine, Apple has new models that are great but with difficult specification options that involve sacrifice, and those choices are expensive and you live with them for three to five years. I understand the need to cry for help: it's a calculus with money involved, and as such has a lot of emotion attached.
A 200MHz speed bump and a Maxwell-based GPU would actually bring a worthwhile boost in battery life and performance in the 15" models.
I mean, it's not the most exciting upgrade ever, but it would be appreciable for anyone using MBPs for production work.
I mean, it's not the most exciting upgrade ever, but it would be appreciable for anyone using MBPs for production work.
Man, I've been waiting so long for Haswell that I think that I can wait a bit more. I think. Unlike most of you, I'm running a 5 year old Late 2008 15" Macbook Pro (1ish hour of battery life baby). I will hold strong until Haswell comes out though (looking like February at the earliest). I just pray to God that my Macbook will hold out too. It has been through hell and back and is still running relatively strong (obviously done some upgrades to help out). If it goes out before then, the decision will be made for me by default...
Because Intel messed up big time with the recurring delays of Broadwell and that screwed over many manufacturers' 2014 product update plans. This new refresh doesn't make up for it, but it's better than nothing.
Hmm, Apple have ordered a new replacement for my Late 2013 15" rMBP. Should be ready for pickup at the end of the week.
Will this minor update happen in the next couple of weeks as per the Air? Or is it definitely September?
I'm using my current machine in the meantime, but I won't wait for this until September.
Will this minor update happen in the next couple of weeks as per the Air? Or is it definitely September?
I'm using my current machine in the meantime, but I won't wait for this until September.
Question
Someone explain what makes price difference between CPU models.
As long as I know a CPU is manufactured with something like a print technology. The cost of making (printing) a CPU and a CPU with higher clock speed should not be much different, but the retail prices are very different among models.
Why is that?
Someone explain what makes price difference between CPU models.
As long as I know a CPU is manufactured with something like a print technology. The cost of making (printing) a CPU and a CPU with higher clock speed should not be much different, but the retail prices are very different among models.
Why is that?
Because the cost of direct manufacturing is insignificant compared to all the R&D that goes into actually designing the processor. Also it's more difficult to obtain units that will clock higher and without any defects (supposedly those located near the middle of silicone wafer, or from a specific batch).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_testing
In some very specific cases, a die that passes some but not all test patterns can still be used as a product, typically with limited functionality. The most common example of this is a microprocessor for which only one part of the on-die cache memory is functional. In this case, the processor can sometimes still be sold as a lower cost part with a smaller amount of memory and thus lower performance.
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R&D. The end product is made out of the same materials but the "architecture" varies wildly from chip to chip. Ex. GPU, Cores, Cache, etc.
Expect the higher binning quality to carry over to the GPU but don't expect any gains that you would actually care about.
How does it not answer your question, it is not a successor nor a redesign. It is just purely a clock bump and that does come with a very tiny hit to the battery life. They did not do any other changes other than simple clock bump.
A GPU boost would be more welcomed. The Nvidia 750M is so 2013. Windows' machines are shipping out Nvidia 850M and even 870M.
Talking someone who probably owns a Haswell MBP. I really desire a better hardware for the other forum members, even having an obsolete rMBP early-2013. If I didn't buy a Mac until now, I'd probably wait. If you have an old Mac you can probably wait (maybe a good opportunity to upgrade RAM/SSD) until the Broadwell launch.
Well I still have a Early 2011 Macbook Pro, so I think it's time for an upgrade
If you need one today, buy one today. If you can reasonably wait, then wait for this 200MHz speed bump.
Thank you vault.
I could imagined R&D premium but, higher defect ratio and usage of center of wafer were new cuts to me.
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Thank you Silver