intel mac laptops.......

[sw1tcher]

Besides, why would Apple want to use the same chips as Dell? It doesn't make sense given Apple's desire to be unique in the marketplace.

Apple will still be unique. They have their award-winning designs, their OS, their software, etc.

The Intel switch isn't about conforming, it's about performance and being in control of the product.

Yes, it's about performance. But it's also about being able to deliver to us products that they've only been able to dream about.

Controling the product? If Apple were in control, we'd have G5 PowerBooks by now. We'd have 3GHz+ G5's by now. Just like with IBM and Motorola, Intel won't let Apple control the direction of their processors. Not even Dell, a much larger player, can control the direction of Intel's chips.

Apple specific chips? Not going to happen.

 

[tsk]

Apple won't release ANY Intel based Macs till late 2006, but will be releasing updates to the portable line up this year.

No offense here, but you claim inside info, and then then your first statement here is a contradiction to what Steve Jobs said in the keynote:

So when we meet here again this next time next year, our plan is to be shipping Macs with Intel processors by then...

That suggests Intel based Macs will be released early 2006 (something like March or April).

 

[WinterMute]

No offense here, but you claim inside info, and then then your first statement here is a contradiction to what Steve Jobs said in the keynote:

So when we meet here again this next time next year, our plan is to be shipping Macs with Intel processors by then...

That suggests Intel based Macs will be released early 2006 (something like March or April).

That's what I said in the conversation, but the reply held, I'm passing on info from a reliable source that tends to modify what Steve Jobs said in the keynote, if you believe it, fine, if not, no worries.

This is a rumour site after all...

I thought the info made sense, still do as it happens, and I thought you lot might like to know.

The info that there will be other PPC upgrades is consistent and means people have more chance of making their own minds up about what to buy and when.

 

[wrxguy]

I have read in macworld that the illusive G5 PowerBook is prob not ever gonna happen due to the heat that it puts out being so high powered...even the PowerMac's have trouble movin all that heat...as for the intel chips in laptops it is said to be in LATE 06 but prob 07 is my guess...DAMN THAT STEVE JOBS!

 

[FF_productions]

Now that I think about it, speed will no longer be the issue..It's now going to be windows Os vs mac Os, and as mentioned before, there will be better and more accurate benchmarks that will tell people the truth of which OS really is the king...

 

[wdlove]

Not in current line up, the new chips will probably be specifically engineered versions of the designs you mention, but they won't be based on the existing Pentium designs like the Pentium-M.

The chips that go to Dell won't be the chips that Apple get, but their underlying design will be similar.

Thank you WinterMute, your information gives me a lot more confidence in the switch. To me it makes sense that Apple would be using Intel chips specifically designed for the Mac. Don't think it would cause any problems for Intel. It's that they are the largest chip maker that allows for them to diversify.

I thought that Steve said we would be getting delivery of the first mac with an Intel Chip by June?

 

[SpaceMagic]

The current benchmarks (which are dodgy at best) compare current G5s and Pentiums / Xeons what has this got to do with the future CPUs coming out of Intel?

In 2006/7 I think the only difference between these machines will be Dell will still have crap designs and the OS that comes on both machines.

I'm not convinced. I still haven't seen anything here that leads me to believe Apple are getting a custom CPU from Intel, the post above about mainboards is the only thing that sounds logical so far.

I have to agree with WinterMute on all accounts.

The Pentium-M is a far superior designed chip than other Pentiums, but its still 2005's mobile-CPU. None of us need reminded that Jobs said "some of the product base will hopefully have been moved up to Intel by this time next year (WWDC 2006)" so what chip Intel will have then is anyone's guess, especially since they are not in the habit of disclosing their roadmaps. Apple will not go a step backwards, so they're obviously going to have 64bit CPUs, something the Pentium-M is not (correct me if I'm wrong). It makes sense to me that Apple will be helping Intel with their next generation of CPUs and it also makes sense to me that Apple will be using a subsidized design, something Dell can't shove in their machines. Apple know they are slower than most at upgrading their product line, imagine how embarrassing it'd be every 3 months Dell brought out a faster machine based on same CPU. I just can't see it happening.

 

[wide]

This is based on several conversations regarding Apple development plans over the last couple of weeks, I can't disclose sources obviously, but I do have pretty good relations with Apple.

Besides, why would Apple want to use the same chips as Dell? It doesn't make sense given Apple's desire to be unique in the marketplace. The Intel switch isn't about conforming, it's about performance and being in control of the product.

(Oh, and money obviously...)

umm....most PC computers use Pentium 4, not Pentium-M....using your judgement, Apple would not want to use the Pentium 4 processors in their computers. I think that Apple will be using Pentium-M chips in their laptops. Granted, Intel may redesign them and optimize them for Macs but i do think the chips Apple will eventually put into its portable line will be compatible with both XP and OS X. i think the technology in Pentium M will be used but perhaps on a smaller chip.

 

[Mord]

This is based on several conversations regarding Apple development plans over the last couple of weeks, I can't disclose sources obviously, but I do have pretty good relations with Apple.

Besides, why would Apple want to use the same chips as Dell? It doesn't make sense given Apple's desire to be unique in the marketplace. The Intel switch isn't about conforming, it's about performance and being in control of the product.

(Oh, and money obviously...)

it's clear that this move is to x86 not EPIC or any RISC intel architecture, intel may provide them with slightly modifyed chips so not to be pin compatible with retail chips.

 

[jiv3turkey748]

i would assume that their laptops would be the first to go to intel id say between january and june of 2006