Intel Macs - Goodbye stable computing for now?

[illegalprelude]

if you don't like to return your intel macs and don't upgrade.

oohhh man. I love these ignorant comments. Kinda like the "its your fault you bought a Rev A unit" or "if you dont like our government, then why dont you move to another" Ignorance at its best.

Wow, I am getting attacked over nothing! I never blamed Apple, and I never said other people were having the same experience as I. I was simply checking to see if others were having the same experience. Very likely my minor issues are due to the specific software I am using rather than OS X. However, now that I have rid myself of Parallels and Boot Camp, the issues that remain are not due to beta software. I am not using any beta software. It must be challenging for developers to have rock solid first generation universal binary apps. Capture One is a good example.

Anyway, I try to raise a simple point of discussion and a bunch of people attack me, and one even suggests I return my new Macs . Some of these responses are truly mindless.

Hah member, alot of people love the apple kool-aid. I guess its gotta extra kick to it or something

 

[rtdgoldfish]

No problems at all on my MacBook. iTunes 7 locked up once before I got 2 gigs of ram. It was downloading artwork, importing a disc and downloading from the music store at the same time. Think the problem was a lack of ram, nothing more. How much ram do you have in your machines?? Maybe your programs are just giving up because they don't have the memory they need

 

[Music_Producer]

Amin, you used BootCamp AND Parallels?

When I first got my macbook (and macbook pro) they were great.. no crashes, nothing. I installed BootCamp, and the problems began..specifically, kernel panics. For a while I couldn't figure out why this was happening.. and I attributed it to things like 'Apple sucks' or 'Thermal grease too thick!' or 'stupid intel chips'

Then I kinda figured that the problems started occuring after installing bootcamp, so i formatted everything, and reinstalled mac os x from scratch. You might want to do that.. I'm assuming that you simply uninstalled bootcamp and parallels, and didn't reformat everything.

For different people, there are different computing experiences. For you, iWeb crashes.. for me, it never does. Only dreamweaver crashes (when i am trying to upload something to a server) but that is of course, because, it is a ppc-version. All my universal apps run great.

 

[radiantm3]

Wow, I am getting attacked over nothing! I never blamed Apple, and I never said other people were having the same experience as I. I was simply checking to see if others were having the same experience. Very likely my minor issues are due to the specific software I am using rather than OS X. However, now that I have rid myself of Parallels and Boot Camp, the issues that remain are not due to beta software. I am not using any beta software. It must be challenging for developers to have rock solid first generation universal binary apps. Capture One is a good example.

Anyway, I try to raise a simple point of discussion and a bunch of people attack me, and one even suggests I return my new Macs . Some of these responses are truly mindless.

Unfortunately, a lot of people on the internet don't like to read. They basically skim through your post and see a few phrases/words, and come up with their own summary of your post. They see the words kernal panic, intel mac, and that's about it.

 

[solvs]

Wow, I am getting attacked over nothing!

Er, the name of your Thread is Intel Macs - Goodbye stable computing for now. What did you expect? Most of the people here are just giving you their experiences saying they don't have a problem. Who's attacking you?

 

[Shadow]

No OS is 100% stable...

You obviously have much to learn my young padawan... (I just watched Star Wars)

Seriosuly though, I went to London by train yesterday, about ~2 hours each way. I was using my MacBook for the whole journey, and it didnt crash for the whole journey. Not even a stutter. My MacBook is 100% stable, theres only really 1 app that crashes-Adium (I've tried all the alternatives to MS Messenger for Mac).

 

[nplima]

I've had my intel iMac since day 1 and I've had my mbp for a month now and never had one problem. i'd try not to blame apple because of your betaware.

Wait a second there... What the OP said is that there his Operating System dies on him.

I don't know about you guys, but what I expect by switching from the Windows world to Linux and MacOS is to have less stories of OS dies horribly and more of the ideal reaction to problems: app misbehaves, OS wipes it out of memory, sends out message "App xxxxx crashed, resuming normal operations", end of story.

What you just wrote is eerily close to what I've been hearing for many years "no, windows is stable and secure, it's the sound driver that had a fault and crashed the whole OS" or "no, windows is great, it's just that beta app you had there wrote a bunch of crap in the registry and now you have to remove it by hand or re-format your disk".

In short: I expect the OS to recover "gracefully" from any app crashing, regardless if it is paralels or a video driver. If the OP has been getting this kind of problem after he upgraded to an intel machine, I'm grateful this became public so people will know there are things in need of repair.

Nuno

 

[Allotriophagy]

You obviously have much to learn my young padawan... (I just watched Star Wars)

Seriosuly though, I went to London by train yesterday, about ~2 hours each way. I was using my MacBook for the whole journey, and it didnt crash for the whole journey. Not even a stutter. My MacBook is 100% stable, theres only really 1 app that crashes-Adium (I've tried all the alternatives to MS Messenger for Mac).

So that is 100% stable...for four hours...apart from the things that crash.

Any further insight to share, Einstein?

 

[0098386]

To be frank (hi frank!) I was a little worried about this too. I thought to myself "yey! I bought an intel iMac! ..... wait, PC?" with memories of the PC syndrome still fresh in my head. Basically my PC's have always been fast, but never stable. Sometimes they'd be super fast and great and others they would take forever, never the same result twice. I've been talking to a PC know-all guy who said that this is common when you don't underclock certain processors.

Anyways. Glad to know that intel Macs are stable too. I sincerely hope I get the best Windows experience from one of these too for the few PC apps I use on my desktop.

good good.

 

[discoforce]

Wait a second there... What the OP said is that there his Operating System dies on him.

*snip*

In short: I expect the OS to recover "gracefully" from any app crashing, regardless if it is paralels or a video driver. If the OP has been getting this kind of problem after he upgraded to an intel machine, I'm grateful this became public so people will know there are things in need of repair.

Precisely.

Yesterday, I installed Cisco's VPN client that I need to access certain sites at my university. This software is listed as both PPC and Intel compatible. Shortly after my iMac would no longer shutdown. Choosing shutdown would simply restart, over and over, until boom: kernel panic (link provided for those asking what it is).

Running through the usual list of fixes (repair permissions, repair disk, try a different user, resetting PRAM) resulted in no improvements, so I come here and find this thread. I see that at least one other person has had problems with VPN and the new intel macs, I remember that was the last thing I installed, and now I'll remove it and hopefully all will be well.

However, if the OP hadn't shared this issue I might still be in the dark. I agree with the OP that this HAS been a fairly smooth transition from PPC to intel, and I also agree that there are some small bumps that need to be addressed.

Responding to folks that are having problems by saying that they should know better than to use software that Apple is recommending you use does not help. I'm hoping such comments come from responders who only read the inflammatory thread title but didn't bother to read the OP's posts.

 

[amin]

Glad to hear that most of you are having a trouble-free transition. I am also glad that mine has been nearly trouble free.

For those of you who read my posts or otherwise added something to the discussion, thanks. For those of you who only read the [perhaps too provocative] title, I'll simply ignore your comments; no point in bickering.