Intel Nehalem Delayed Until Q4 2009/Q1 2010, MBP Redesign More Likely

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  1. MICHAELSD macrumors 68040

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    http://en.expreview.com/2008/09/04/...windows-prepare-for-holiday-refresh-2009.html

    The Auburndale version of Nehalem, designed for mainstream notebooks (MacBook, MacBook Pro) has been delayed until January 2010. The performance version of Nehalem, Clarksfield isn't coming out until Q4 2009. This should be good news for anyone that wants to buy a MBP in the next few months (like me ;)) since we won't see a huge performance leap until at least a year from when the next MBP is released.

    It would make a lot of sense for Apple to redesign the MBP now, which is probably why they've been taking so long to release a MBP with the Montevina chipset. If they didn't release a redesigned MBP now, then there would be a full four-year gap between the original MBP design and a new one. I wonder what Apple would do in 2009. Update the MBP at the end of '09 and then update it again two months later? Will they keep the same model all year? Switch over to AMD (I couldn't see them doing that)? Design a custom chipset for the MBP? At least this is good news for anyone looking to buy now since it would be stupid for Apple to wait until Nehalem to release a redesigned MBP.
     
  2. zer0tails macrumors 65816

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    thanks for this news.

    What is the performance version, clarkesfield for? Desktops?
     
  3. Logos327 macrumors 6502

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    This couldn't have gone in one of the other NEW MBP !!!! OMG !!! threads

    I think the information is interesting (and worthy of some discussion) but not worthy of new thread. Just try not to clutter the forum up.
     
  4. MICHAELSD thread starter macrumors 68040

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    No, that's the mobile performance version. I'm not sure if Apple would want to upgrade the MBP to that with an even better mobile version of Nehalem coming out 1-3 months later.
     
  5. J the Ninja macrumors 68000

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    Clarksfield is for higher-end laptops. I believe Auburndale has an on-die GPU, Clarksfield does not (it's assumed the user would want a better, discrete one). Auburndale might be missing quad core versions as well (not sure on that). A quick guide to the core codenames:

    Auburndale - Low-end/Mainestream laptops

    Clarksfield - High end laptops

    Lynnfield - Mainstream/low-end desktops

    Bloomfield - High-end desktops (mainly gaming PCs)

    Gainestown - Small (1 or 2 CPU) servers, high-powered workstations

    Beckton - Large, multi-processor servers. Share's socket/chipset with the new version of Itanium (supposedly. Said Itanium proc is called Tukwilla, btw)
     
  6. zer0tails macrumors 65816

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    @ J the Ninja: thanks for that useful info. So if i assume correctly, Auburndale is what they're going to put into macbooks, and clarksfield for the macbook pros right?

    Nehalem seems awesome, but i guess awesome takes time.

    If it's going to take this long..i'm interested to know what Apple is going to be putting in the next rumored macbooks/macbook pros.

    I agree with OP. Redesign seems very likely.
     
  7. iMacmatician macrumors 601

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    That's been around for a while.

    Most Clarksfields are too hot for the MacBook Pro, so I doubt we'll see those. The lowest-clocked version of it will be cool enough, but its GHz is likely to be so low compared to the Auburndales that Apple may skip that Clarksfield and use all Auburndales in the MacBook Pro.
     
  8. danielwsmithee macrumors 6502a

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    I don't think so. The Clarksfield has the Northbridge now built into the processor so a 45W Clarksfield is equivalent to the 35W Penryn + 10 W Northbridge in the current design.

    The Clarksfield TurboBoost is very aggressive, the 1.73 Ghz jumps to 3.06 Ghz when single threaded applications are running.

    Apple is going to use Clraksfield in the machines that have discrete graphics. High end 15" and 17", and iMac.

    They will use the Arrandale in the machines that currently use the 9400M.
     
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    Auburndale = Arrandale?

    I agree with you. I doubt Apple will use Clarksfield
     
  10. J the Ninja macrumors 68000

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    Auburndale /= Arrandale!


    This is what happens when year-old threads get necro'd. Sometimes they are full of obsolete info. Auburndale was to be a 45nm part, but it was canned. Arrandale was meant to be the 32nm shrink of it, IIRC, but Intel bumped it up. Apparently, the 32nm transition was going better than planned.
     
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    OK, so I just read that Auburndale was meant to be dual-core, 45nm Nehalem CPU and it was meant to be releases in mid 2009, but it wasn't, right? And now Arrandale is ahead of the schedule and is already being manufactured and soon to be released, so is Auburndale rebranded Arrandale or what? Sorry I'm just so lost now with the names and so on. Everyone was talking about Arrandale but now Auburndale came from bushes and I have no idea what it is :eek: :cool:
     
  12. Firefly2002 macrumors 65816

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    Necro'd? As in necromanced? Lol... hi Jayne = p
     
  13. tofagerl macrumors 6502a

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    Auburndale is nothing, forget it. And I haven't heard anything about arrandale coming out early, where's that from?
     
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    Take a look at this thread for more info. Also there's s chance that Apple gets them earlier than others
     

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