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Intel Nehalem Processor Details Leaked

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

More interesting are details of Intel's Nehalem processors which will be the successor to Penryn.
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Isn't Penryn the notebook platform. I mean, I thought we all waited for Penryn MBP, or wasn't that, what the whining was about?

So, this actually means: "When will we get the Nehalem MBP?"-posts are on the run, aren't they?

Actually, maybe a Nehalem iMac will be quite a fun toy :D
 
The only question is... will I be able to wait until nehalem is in a mbp?

We'll have to see what kind of benefits montevina brings.
 
swagi said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but:



Isn't Penryn the notebook platform. I mean, I thought we all waited for Penryn MBP, or wasn't that, what the whining was about?

So, this actually means: "When will we get the Nehalem MBP?"-posts are on the run, aren't they?

Actually, maybe a Nehalem iMac will be quite a fun toy :D
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Well Merom/Penryn are the CPU's used. It is the Core 2 line. Nehalem is the next iteration of Core CPU technology and I think it would most likely be called Core 3.
 
multi core

zdobson said:
I wouldn't worry too much. Seems like they won't be available until mid '09.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but won't it take some time for software to be available to make full use of the new architecture's capabilities? I mean, quad core chips have been around about a year (?) and not all pro software (i.e. Photoshop) makes use of all cores yet.
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I specifically checked Aperture at MacWorld and it used all 8 cores for many processes. Since I still have a 2gig G5, I don't think I will wait.:D
Mark
 
12 Cores would make me happy until the 16 core systems come out.

POWER!!!!!!!!

Computers will never be fast enough, they can not yet answer my question before I ask.
 
This is some amazing news! I'm happy with my Mac Pro so I won't be waiting to upgrade, but its good to see Intel pushing the envelope. Dual core...necessary, quad core...sweet, six core...insane. As long as Intel and Apple keep innovating at the rate their going, we're going to see some amazing tech in the future.
 
The Quick Path idea sounds like the real revolution here. Busses have always been bottlenecks.

Not quite a new idea. If you've been following CPU designs over the last 40 years you'd remember the CDC6400 (designed in 1964) It had a ten way path to main memory and the internal components where connected by what we'd call today a full NxN matrix switch, not a bus. However these machines sold for $12 million, back when that was a lot of money. I wonder how long it will take for all of the 1960's technology to find it's way to desktop PCs.
 
We will see thousands of "Next Tuesday" posts after this chip is available from Intel. If you want a Mac Pro, now is the time to buy one. It will be another 10 months for the next update.
 
masse said:
The only question is... will I be able to wait until nehalem is in a mbp?
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Of course you can wait. But you know what will happen? three months before the nehalem comes out Intel will "leak" specs of the next generation and you be then have to wait another 18 months. You will become old and gray and you will still have that G3 notebook running System 9 on 128Mb of RAM.

I think the rule is "If you need a computer now, buy a computer now."
 
BornAgainMac said:
We will see thousands of "Next Tuesday" posts after this chip is available from Intel. If you want a Mac Pro, now is the time to buy one. It will be another 10 months for the next update.
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Well, actually I guess no. Actually the best time for buying a MacPro was more than a year ago. After reading some documents, I'm inclined to think, that you rather buy in the Tock-phase of Intel's development stage. Nehalem will be the next Tock. Check Tick Tock Model.

So well, I should've bought a Merom model a year ago. Then Nehalem and next Sandy Bridge :(
 

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You lot need to calm down, Intel promised mass improvement with the Harpertowns and it never happened. Get a grip, you won't see a 44% increase in performance, it'll end up being the usual 10% - 20% increase that we get with every next generation.

SSE4.1 was going to be the next best thing since sliced bread - yet 6 months down the line, I can't find a single piece of software that utilises it. Hell it's not even functioning on an OS level yet.

It seems Intel have taken a note from Steve Jobs book of publicity bollocks!
 
Just got a 2.8 octo Mac Pro and am thrilled with it. I was running an eight-year-old G4 400 since 2000, so I have no remorse about my purchase. For my needs, this machine should be all I need for at least five years.
 
ChrisA said:
The Quick Path idea sounds like the real revolution here. Busses have always been bottlenecks.

Not quite a new idea. If you've been following CPU designs over the last 40 years you'd remember the CDC6400 (designed in 1964) It had a ten way path to main memory and the internal components where connected by what we'd call today a full NxN matrix switch, not a bus. However these machines sold for $12 million, back when that was a lot of money. I wonder how long it will take for all of the 1960's technology to find it's way to desktop PCs.
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The North bridge in most current generation chipsets have cross-bar like switches with multiple paths to memory, etc. So concepts from mainframes, etc. have made it into main stream / consumer computers in sensibly reduced forms.

Quick Path has been in the works at Intel for a while and is similar in many ways to Hyper Transport based systems that AMD currently make (for a while now). Also note HT was used in the PowerMac G5s back in the day (system component interconnect, not for CPU interconnect).
 
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macintel4me said:
Wow! That's first the first MAJOR performance gain and not just performance/watt gain have seen from Intel in awhile. Cheers!!
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Agreed! I wasnt expecting much more than the typical 5-10% upgrade weve seen l
ately
 
I'm quite happy with my 2.8 iMac. Well almost need to troubleshoot a couple things. But other than that. It will do me just fine till 2010.
 
asdavis10 said:
This is some amazing news! I'm happy with my Mac Pro so I won't be waiting to upgrade, but its good to see Intel pushing the envelope. Dual core...necessary, quad core...sweet, six core...insane. As long as Intel and Apple keep innovating at the rate their going, we're going to see some amazing tech in the future.
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"pushing the envelope"?
Sun has been selling their 8-core machine based on the SPARC T1 chip for, what, a year now? Longer I think. Each core can do 4-way "hyper threading" so it is really a 32 thread machine. Even with 8 cores the chip only uses 72 watts and runs cool. Prices are comparable to a Mac Pro.
 
These will be 24-core systems

EagerDragon said:
12 Cores would make me happy until the 16 core systems come out.
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Re-read the article - these chips replace Tigerton, which goes into 4 socket systems. They'll be going into 24-core servers.

There's also no reason to expect 6 core chips in the Xeon dual socket series.
 
G4DP said:
You lot need to calm down, Intel promised mass improvement with the Harpertowns and it never happened. Get a grip, you won't see a 44% increase in performance, it'll end up being the usual 10% - 20% increase that we get with every next generation.
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This is the first new micro-architecture generation since the Core 2 starting shipping in 2006. Everything so far since 2006 has been process related bumps, clock scaling, etc. (of course SSE4 is a new sub-set of instructions)

G4DP said:
SSE4.1 was going to be the next best thing since sliced bread - yet 6 months down the line, I can't find a single piece of software that utilises it. Hell it's not even functioning on an OS level yet.
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Not really 6 months since processors have been shipping in any volumes to customers (more like 2 months). Expect software to start leveraging SSE4 in the coming months/year. You really can get 30-40% boost in performance with tasks that map well to SSE4 over what you could do on prior CPUs that only had SSE3/SSSE3.
 
BornAgainMac said:
We will see thousands of "Next Tuesday" posts after this chip is available from Intel. If you want a Mac Pro, now is the time to buy one. It will be another 10 months for the next update.
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Sweet. I got one last thursday, in lieu of freaking out about MBP updates - I caved and got the power I was craving...

now what to do with it... hmm

folding@home for mac?

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