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"In my opinion" theyre both wonderful...for different things.

Gaming: Windows>OSX
Hardware limitations aside, OSX consistently under performs when compared to bootcamp gaming. Slow adoption for new OpenGL standards...etc

You mean OpenGL standards are more used in the Windows side? I thought it was mainly DirectX there.
 
u have to admit guys asus did a pretty good job making the macbook air design even better.

i wish the macbooks would have metal keys. would be alot stronger and last longer than the crappy cheap keys on the macbooks right now
 
Shooting the messenger also ? If you have a better report, please submit it. Meanwhile, RESCUECOM had also found the same conclusion and the report was submitted by IDC :

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So if you want to challenge these reports, how about digging up reports with facts instead of just brushing aside based on the messenger ?

And no, I'm not gullible, I was simply pointing that there is evidence out there (I didn't comment on the validity of the evidence itself) that the comment originally made was factual and based on evidence.

Why does everytime someone question Apple's "supermacy", it's always the poster that gets attacked instead of the argument ? For the 2nd time this week : Can't we ever have an objective discussion around here ?

I'm 0 for 3 on Asus reliability...3 laptops purchased new and that lasted around a year before they were in the shop.

Ensemble W3j, G71G-A2, G71G-Q.

All had power, mobo, and Power4Gear issues.

Asus has always been on the cusp of high performance at reasonable prices, but based on my ownership experience, I would not buy again.
 
It all depends upon the yard stick used.

In some ways AMDs Llano Fusion product does out perform Sandy Bridge. In cases where the GPU is important it does extremely well and actually runs cooler.

Looking forward to the Ivy Bridge, although also looking forward to the new AMD processors, It's about time AMD beat Intel :p, it was great in the Athlon XP days, when they easily outperformed Intel P4's in price and performance..

I don't think AMD will ever have the huge gap they once did but they should be in a far better position to offer better value. Further these days GPU performance is very important for a number of users thus making Llano like products more useful for the average user.

As you can see I kinda wish that Apple will look at Llano. At least for the Mini and the Mac Book. It simply dedicates transistors to those things Mac users need the most in these devices.
 
A very nice looking machine...
I'm going for the "imitation is the best form of flattery" angle here.
 
That's like saying Firestone copied Goodyear in a tire design... Round is about the only way you can make a tire... Square just doesn't get it...

Let's not forget the OS :)

eh? are you saying all laptops are rectangle and there isn't anything else to the design?
 
I'm 0 for 3 on Asus reliability...3 laptops purchased new and that lasted around a year before they were in the shop.

That's cool, I had 4 Apple 24" LED ACDs before I finally just got my money back. All had problems (yellowing, dust under the glass, pixel cluster problems).

I had a CPU fan replaced on my original 2008 Macbook unibody because of a faulty bearing.

I had my iPhone 3GS replaced because the mute switch stopped working.

We all have anecdotal evidence of problems with manufacturers, it's the bigger stats from large enough samples that count and turn anecdote into statistical evidence.
 
That's cool, I had 4 Apple 24" LED ACDs before I finally just got my money back. All had problems (yellowing, dust under the glass, pixel cluster problems).

I had a CPU fan replaced on my original 2008 Macbook unibody because of a faulty bearing.

I had my iPhone 3GS replaced because the mute switch stopped working.

We all have anecdotal evidence of problems with manufacturers, it's the bigger stats from large enough samples that count and turn anecdote into statistical evidence.

Exactly. I do think its funny though, when people have some weird claim of poor luck regarding one product/brand. For instance, Im on #3 iPad 2.

4 faulty 24" ACD's seems beyond bad luck...borderline cursed:p
 
4 faulty 24" ACD's seems beyond bad luck...borderline cursed:p

I took it as a message from god (haha, coming from a non-believer!). Especially since the Genius said "Fault or not, if I exchange this one again, you're keeping it" which was pretty clear that I shouldn't exchange the product, just return it.
 
eh? are you saying all laptops are rectangle and there isn't anything else to the design?

Are you saying that you would buy square tires? As long as the input devices are keyboards, yep, laptops will look pretty much like they do today, just lighter and smaller... Unless you use your finger to "touch" as an input device.... Oh yeah, there is already an iPad, iPhone and iTouch....

As long as we use our hands as input devices I just don't think there can be much else soon... Now I am going to use my brain and think real hard - "submit reply"... Nope didn't work - using keyboard now - "click"
 

Well, let's cut to the chase, shall we? Here is the original report by RESCUECOM in 2010.

And they say this about their own numbers (4th and 3rd last paragraphs): Asus is cheap, so likely buyers are not paying for repairs, but prefer to buy a new computer - so RESCUECOM can't count them, since they only count calls for repairs. Meanwhile, Macs keep being repaired ... because they keep being in use.

So even RESCUECOM themselves won't jump to the conclusion you are trying to jump to. They in fact say "Apple’s superior level of service for its products has long made them among the most reliable in the industry. "
 
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So even RESCUECOM themselves won't jump to the conclusion you are trying to jump to. They in fact say "Apple’s superior level of service for its products has long made them among the most reliable in the industry. "

I'm not jumping to any conclusions. Did you follow the sub-thread this is a part of ? I was simply pointing out that the original poster (PlipPlop) in this sub-thread had made a factual statement that can be backed up by some evidence and that the attack that was made on him was unjustified.

Now, if you want to discuss the evidence itself and call into questions the facts, then that is fine. Provide different reports and rebuttals, just like you did here, but don't go accusing the posters of being "haters" just because they post information that shows Apple isn't #1.

And certainly don't put words into my mouth. I did not claim any validity or anything else for these reports nor have I come to conclusions. I just said these reports exist and so there is so form of factual evidence for the initial statement that was made.
 
And certainly don't put words into my mouth. I did not claim any validity or anything else for these reports nor have I come to conclusions. I just said these reports exist and so there is so form of factual evidence for the initial statement that was made.

Well, given that you were citing an older source without initially saying it, and paying attention to the numbers while conveniently omitting the context, it looked to me like you were just implying the unwarranted conclusion.

If that was not the case, I am sorry.
 
Typical Apple design rip off but that's getting really common lately.

Seriously happy I'm waiting for the Ivy Bridge iMacs next year. Hopefully we see more lightpeak tech in the next generation along with USB 3. I know it's nit picky but I want the latest IOs before I upgrade the desktop. ;)

Now lets see how much better Lion is along with the new hardware.
 
Well, given that you were citing an older source without initially saying it, and paying attention to the numbers while conveniently omitting the context, it looked to me like you were just implying the unwarranted conclusion.

If that was not the case, I am sorry.

I was again simply pointing out how the attack was unjustified on the originator of this sub-thread and pointing out there were many sources of evidence.
 
Shape patent? Are you serious or do you not understand anything about design?

I'm dumb and don't understand anything about design. Should the other manufacturers make their notebooks shaped more like a shoe box and put the ports on the bottom so that they don't copy Apple? Or maybe they should make it open the other way since Apple notebooks open front to back? Is it ok if the other companies have a keyboard, or would that be a copyright infringement? Ditto for a display. Enlighten me on how to make a think, light compact notebook that looks nothing like a MBA. I'm assuming for the time being that most notebooks will have somewhat of a rectangular shape.

Well 1.8% isn't really "so much better" is it.

But if it was Apple you'd be swinging from the vine like Tarzan bragging about it.
 
Are you saying that you would buy square tires?

What are you talking about :confused:

I'd buy the tyres based on the quality of the tread. Are you saying that if Dunlop produced some amazing new design that increased road handling by 50% you would say it was ok for other companies to copy this design?

But the tyres are round so its ok?
 
What are you talking about :confused:

I'd buy the tyres based on the quality of the tread. Are you saying that if Dunlop produced some amazing new design that increased road handling by 50% you would say it was ok for other companies to copy this design?

But the tyres are round so its ok?

Should other companies be allowed to produce round tires, or does Dunlop have a patent on that?
 
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