Intel PowerMacs? Apple Phone? MacBooks Ship Date?

[MacsRgr8]

If the Conroe-Power Mac would be available by September, it wouldn't surprise me to see Apple having two Power Mac lines over at the Store, until at least CS3 is shipping.

The "Quad" will pressumably stay for quite sometime... Maybe a Quad 2.7 by then.
The Pro-users MUST be able have the choice for going for the fastest Mac for their purpose. Even once the Conroe has arrived in the Power Mac (Mac Pro.... ), it will not out perform all those AltiVec enhanced PowerPC apps running in a Quad config.

I am pretty interested in finding out in the predictable up and coming BareFeats CS3 shoot-out which Mac will perform better. Conroe? Quad?

The switch to Intel is more or less only of interest for the portables in the short term, hence the "performancd per Watt" marketing. The G4 had-to-go... not so much the G5. Sure, the Conroe will outperform the G5 once it has gone Quad-config and > 3.0 GHz, but not once it will be initially released... whatever Steve will promise on stage

 

[yankeefan24]

My MacBook Pro 1.83 was ordered an hour after they were announced on January 10th with an upgraded 7200 RPM HD.

My "ship date" has been, and remains as of this morning, February 15th. Oddly, even though I paid an extra $15 for 2nd day shipping, the "delivered by" date is slated for the 21st. I assume one of these dates are wrong, and I've seen this in the past on previous orders (got them early.)

I'll keep you all posted.

look in iCal. it leaves apple in shanghai (or wherever) the 15. UPS or FedEx gets it the 16. thats when 2 day shipping starts. its on it way on the 17, day 1. 18 and 19 are weekends. no shipping, and the 20 is a national holiday. no shipping.

 

[Multimedia]

I Expect First PowerMacIntels To Be All Quad - 2 x Core Duo

If the Conroe-Power Mac would be available by September, it wouldn't surprise me to see Apple having two Power Mac lines over at the Store, until at least CS3 is shipping.

The "Quad" will pressumably stay for quite sometime... Maybe a Quad 2.7 by then.
The Pro-users MUST be able have the choice for going for the fastest Mac for their purpose. Even once the Conroe has arrived in the Power Mac (Mac Pro.... ), it will not out perform all those AltiVec enhanced PowerPC apps running in a Quad config.

I am pretty interested in finding out in the predictable up and coming BareFeats CS3 shoot-out which Mac will perform better. Conroe? Quad?

The switch to Intel is more or less only of interest for the portables in the short term, hence the "performancd per Watt" marketing. The G4 had-to-go... not so much the G5. Sure, the Conroe will outperform the G5 once it has gone Quad-config and > 3.0 GHz, but not once it will be initially released... whatever Steve will promise on stage

I Expect First PowerMacIntels To Be All Quad - 2 x Core Duo. But I agree the Barefeats shootout will be what a lot of us will want to study carefully before moving not over but UP.

 

[GloverCom]

Shipping the 15th

I ordered my MacBook Pro the instant the store came online after Job's announcement (Thanks to to MacRumor's coverage!) and my order has always said, "Estimated Ship by Feb. 15th".

Which really burns me, if others show Feb 7th as their estimated ship date!

 

[Platform]

I Expect First PowerMacIntels To Be All Quad - 2 x Core Duo. But I agree the Barefeats shootout will be what a lot of us will want to study carefully before moving not over but UP.

I don' think they will be using a laptop chip in their workstation

 

[Multimedia]

Not Laptop Core Duo Conroe or Other Core Duo x 2

I don' think they will be using a laptop chip in their workstation

I don't think so either. Is Core Duo specific to the Yonah processor? I thought it applied to any Intel dual core processor.

 

[radian23]

I also ordered mine right when the store went back online and i have a ship date of the 15th. From what I understand if you are in the UK you have the earlier ship date and everyone that ordered right away in the US has a ship date of the 15th. I still don't think its fair the Brits get if first though . Oh well one more week.

 

[Di9it8]

Shipping date MacBook Pro

Apple sites have just been refreshed and shipping is now quoted 3-4weeks!!!
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...f1h1mqB6H/0.SLID?nclm=MacBookPro&mco=4299212C

 

[Multimedia]

Probably looking at an April 17" MBP Announcement at NAB

Apple sites have just been refreshed and shipping is now quoted 3-4weeks!!!
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...f1h1mqB6H/0.SLID?nclm=MacBookPro&mco=4299212C

So that would indicate another month of catch up IF THEN. So we're probably looking at an April 17" MBP Announcement at NAB at worst case.

 

[thunng8]

I don't think so either. Is Core Duo specific to the Yonah processor? I thought it applied to any Intel dual core processor.

Core Duo specifically refers to the chip previous known as Yonah and currently shipping in iMacs

 

[radian23]

Apple sites have just been refreshed and shipping is now quoted 3-4weeks!!!
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...f1h1mqB6H/0.SLID?nclm=MacBookPro&mco=4299212C

Its been like that for about 2 or 3 days now. It just means if you order today it would take that long to arrive. Thats different than if you ordered it when it was released. My expected shipping date is the 15th. I assume it will probably ship next week. Or I hope it will anyways

 

[intlplby]

they ship from taiwan not shanghai......

 

[generik]

they ship from taiwan not shanghai......

So these are assembled in a different factory from the previous revision?

 

[Tegosaurus]

Will try to get my shop to check it once more today... Of course that's only a distributor's wild guess of when they will be able to supply the resellers.

Well, yesterday delivery date at TechData slipped to the 1st of march... So the local resellers won't have the MacBook Pro's in stock before that day at least I guess. Apple Centres and Apple Stores might be different of course.

 

[jacobj]

Well, yesterday delivery date at TechData slipped to the 1st of march... So the local resellers won't have the MacBook Pro's in stock before that day at least I guess. Apple Centres and Apple Stores might be different of course.

This is what annoys be about apple.. I had no option but to order from a reseller as apple no longer ships directly to jersey and so I have to wait, even though I was as quick off the mark as I could be..

my reseller estimates early march.... i am p**sed off..

 

[Lepton]

It's not late

My first day order still shows an estimated ship date of the 15th.

 

[AidenShaw]

Today, at least....

Core Duo specifically refers to the chip previous known as Yonah and currently shipping in iMacs

Intel typically uses a "marketing name" like "Core" to cover several generations of chips. One invests a lot of advertising budget to build brand awareness for the marketing name, so changing the marketing name frequently is risky and expensive.

"Pentium 4" covered many different chips - with and without 64-bit, with and without hyperthreading.

"Xeons" can be 32-bit, 64-bit, HT or not, dual-core or not.
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I'll bet that "Core" will remain for a while for the desktop (single socket) line of chips. The main difference between Yonah and Merom is 32-bit/64-bit. We all know that's a big difference under the skin, but what's wrong with "new 64-bit 'Core Duo'" adverts?

There will be a new marketing name for the Merom-based dual-socket workstation chips, and the multi-socket server chips - replacing today's "Xeon" and "Xeon MP".

I could very well be wrong, however. What the marketing groups do have little to do with what engineering does - but I find it unlikely that the "Core" brand will disappear in a few months when Merom ships.

 

[kingtj]

Fw800

I have to chime in here.... What's all this about people not wanting a Macbook Pro simply because of no FW800 port? IMHO, that borders on the ridiculous. For starters, you'll surely be able to buy a FW800 card adapter that goes in the expansion slot in the side of the notebook - if you *have* to have it. Such things exist now in PCMCIA format, and they're bound to be available for the new card slot type Apple's using too.

With all the other things the Macbook Pro does include (built-in iSight camera, IR remote control, etc.), this just seems like nitpicking to me.

It's not like the FW400 port won't get the job done in 99% of cases anyway. When I buy a laptop, I'm not overly concerned about my ability to add lots of external boxes to it. Otherwise, it immediately becomes very much less portable.

I can see myself buying the last fastest Quad PPC PowerMac next year if I still think the 2.5 Quad is too slow. I'm just not that excited about PowerMacIntels like I am about the Core Duo MacBook Pros - IF they put FW 800 port back in when they finish the 17" version. Missing FW 800 on the eminent 15" model is real off putting for me.

 

[Mechcozmo]

I have to chime in here.... What's all this about people not wanting a Macbook Pro simply because of no FW800 port? IMHO, that borders on the ridiculous. For starters, you'll surely be able to buy a FW800 card adapter that goes in the expansion slot in the side of the notebook - if you *have* to have it. Such things exist now in PCMCIA format, and they're bound to be available for the new card slot type Apple's using too.

Because if you need that ExpressCard/34 slot for something else, then built-in is much nicer than added-on. These could be future technologies, like 802.11n which, if you want in a MacBook Pro now, would require using that slot-- but alas! You need that slot for your FW800 card!

See what I mean? Currently, it isn't that big of a deal to pick up a card. But in 2 to 3 years, it becomes a bigger deal.

 

[aegisdesign]

It's nice to hear that even under Rosetta CS2 can match your PB. I am an occassional user of Pohotshop and have no intentions of upgrading from CS2 to CS3 when it is shipped as that perfomance will do nicely.

I was using an iMac Core Duo 20" yesterday and using Pages and dragging images around and watching it reflow text in realtime compared with my slightly jerky 1.8Ghz G5 iMac, it was night and day faster. Like the difference between my old G3 iBook and the G5 iMac.

I imagine native software running really fast like Pages yet CS2 crawling along at half the speed would grate after a while. The disparity in speed would be quite annoying.

 

[Terence]

Hi
My name is Terence and I'm a switcher (all say "Hi Terence").

Still I haven't quite switched yet. I've never used a Mac yet but I want to get the Quad which looks like one hell of a machine for video editing.
But of course that's the quandry I'm in. Do I wait for a more powerful (maybe) intel power mac or go right on and get the Quad now?

After reading the thread I think I'll go and get the Quad and change to the new Intel Macs in three years time when all problems have been completely settled, all applications are fully compatible and everything runs smoothly. I remember the problems with MS XP which was a big change in Windows. It took editors forever to get the drivers right for that one (my printer quite simply stopped working never to start again!).

So go for what works and is available NOW and wait till everyone else has solved the problems, the prices have come down and rumors are rampant about a "soon to be announced" Intel 8-core Pro Mac (to be called the Octo Core Mac Pro).

 

[50thVert]

Still hoping Apple releases a Phone/PDA/iPod soon with OS X Lite or something.