Intel Preparing to Launch New Xeon Processors for Potential Mac Pro Upgrade

[thenightwatcher]

Does anyone remember when Steve came back and reduced the bloated Apple line of Macs, Performas, etc, etc.. to FOUR categories? While Apple is basically still following that business model (adjusted for what makes sense today), my main concern is that NONE of the four boxes are being managed right.

1) MacPro - needs an interchangeable graphics card. From the highest FirePro, to an Nvida to a low end for people like me that only need a lot of CPU and cores and nothing else. And we still have only one monitor choice - a $1000 27" TB display (or the $2.5k Sharp 4k). I used to be able to buy a top of the line, flagship Mac for $3k - $4k. Now it's $10k. (As an aside, the OS X CoreAudio system is slipping behind the audio subsystem of the Windows kernel, and that is embarrassing. Many composers I know are jumping ship from Logic and AU (audio units) and a MacPro, to Cubase w/VST3 on Windows. As much as I hate to admit it, audio apps now run better on Windows. Apple could fix this. but I don't sense any urgency nor any understanding on there part. All of this reminded me of Apple under Michael Spindler and/or Gil Amelio).

2) MacMini - The MM has now been ruined. The MacMini, in the pro community, was useful because the RAM could be upgraded and 2 SSDs could be installed. Apple should have found a way to redesign the Mini to hold 32GBs of RAM, not-soldered, with that as a BTO option with two SSDs also.

3) iMac, MacBook - Doing ok I think. Apple could concentrate more on good upgradability, over thinness. But, not much to complain about. However, a more powerful i7 in the iMac would be a good start. A MacAir would be a nice purchase, but it's totally sealed and I'm a guy who NEEDS to run RAM hungry apps. I.e., USELESS!!!

4) iOS devices - While I now think of Google and Samsung like I thought of Microsoft in the 90s, the difference is that Android is decent if not good. It sure is a rip off of the iPhone though. Apple makes "the full widget". Fine, I can live with it. But the Apple TV is locked. AirPlay STILL doesn't work for me. Bringing OS X and iOS closer together is, of course a good idea, but OS X Yosemite looks like a Powder Puff Girl theme on an Android product. Maybe even (God forbid), a MS product.

Larry Ellison said Apple without Steve Jobs is doomed. He may be a total ass for all i know, but he's dead right. We need people in charge of Apple who want to be "better" than everyone else. That was the Macintosh spirit. That was the NeXT spirit. And that was the OSX, iPhone and iPad spirit until that said day when Steve Jobs passed.

I see NO sense of urgency at Apple. Steve Jobs was ALL about urgency.

Cheers

 

[flyinmac]

I posted that in August... In Internet time what you just did was try to have a conversation with a dead guy.

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Happy Resurrection Day to you

Glad I was able to bring you back from the dead. One question... Has Steve gotten Heaven switched over to OS X yet? Does his version look like Yosemite? Or, has he come up with something far more advanced?

I'm assuming that's where you went. If not, how is CP/M-86 doing in Hell? Or are they still on CP/M-80 due to the flaming death of Zilog?

Also, Wondering how the 8-inch floppies are handling the heat.

Submitting my request for emoji additions of "extra crispy" and "extra fluffy" (depending on where you spent the last few months) so as to make sure you aren't discriminated against in your second life.

 

[taptic]

happy resurrection day to you

glad i was able to bring you back from the dead. One question... Has steve gotten heaven switched over to os x yet? Does his version look like yosemite? Or, has he come up with something far more advanced?

I'm assuming that's where you went. If not, how is cp/m-86 doing in hell? Or are they still on cp/m-80 due to the flaming death of zilog?

Also, wondering how the 8-inch floppies are handling the heat.

Submitting my request for emoji additions of "extra crispy" and "extra fluffy" (depending on where you spent the last few months) so as to make sure you aren't discriminated against in your second life.

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[5590982]

Sorry for bumping an old thread, but this was the most logical place to ask this. Please advise if you think there's somewhere more appropriate.

Will the new v3 chips work in the current Mac Pro, or does it require an entirely different supporting chipset / motherboard?

Looking at the prices of the new v3 chips, it would be an incredible saving if it were possible - they offer far greater value for money than the previous generation.

 

[koyoot]

Sorry for bumping an old thread, but this was the most logical place to ask this. Please advise if you think there's somewhere more appropriate.

Will the new v3 chips work in the current Mac Pro, or does it require an entirely different supporting chipset / motherboard?

Looking at the prices of the new v3 chips, it would be an incredible saving if it were possible - they offer far greater value for money than the previous generation.

Yes, they will require new MoBo.

They will not be compatible with current version of MoBo in Mac Pro.

 

[thecrud]

After nearly three and a half years with only a minor processor bump, Apple late last year launched its redesigned Mac Pro, moving to a compact cylindrical design relying on a slew of Thunderbolt 2 ports for expandability. While the new machine began shipping in the last few days of 2013, extreme shortages of the machine persisted for months and it wasn't until two months ago that shipping estimates reached the "within 24 hours" level and Apple's own retail stores began stocking the Mac Pro for immediate purchase.

Potential Mac Pro customers may now, however, be starting to look forward to the first update for the redesigned Mac Pro, as Intel appears set to launch new processors appropriate for the Mac Pro next month. As highlighted by Macworld UK, Intel's "Grantley" Xeon E5 v3 chips are nearly ready to ship as successors to the current "Romley" Xeon E5 v2 chips used in the Mac Pro.

Intel announced last month that it had begun shipping at least some versions of the new Xeon E5 v3 chips to server makers, and widespread availability is reportedly set for September. ChipLoco outlined a significant set of E5-2600 v3 series chips, including several that recently became available for pre-order and could be used as an upgrade to the current top-of-the-line 2.7 GHz 12-core E5-2697 v2 chip found in the Mac Pro.

The direct successor to the current chip is the 2.6 GHz 14-core E5-2697 v3 chip, although the new chip does come with a higher thermal rating and it is unclear whether that change would have any impact on Apple's willingness to use the chip in the Mac Pro. Other variants in the new high-end E5-269x v3 series range from 12 to 18 cores.

Below the top end, Apple currently uses E5-1600 v2 series processors, and Intel is reportedly preparing a full set of successor v3 chips for launch next month.

- 4-core: 3.7 GHz E5-1620 v2 moves to 3.5 GHz E5-1620 v3 or 3.7 GHz E5-1630 v3
- 6-core: 3.5 GHz E5-1650 v2 moves to 3.5 GHz E5-1650 v3
- 8-core: 3.0 GHz E5-1680 v2 moves to 3.2 GHz E5-1680 v3

As with the E5-2600 v3 series chips, these E5-1600 v3 series chips come with higher thermal ratings than their predecessors. All of the new chips in both series also support faster DDR4-2133 memory, which will also contribute to improved performance.

On the graphics side, Apple uses customized versions of AMD's FirePro series of high-end graphics cards, although Apple's D300, D500, and D700 options can be roughly equated with AMD's W7000, W8000, and W9000 on the PC side. Over the last several months, AMD has been updating its FirePro cards, culminating with this week's introduction of four new cards, including the W7100 successor to the W7000 card. Alex4D summarizes how the W9100/W8100/W7100 cards introduced in recent months compare to their predecessors and collates a handy comparison chart showing how these new and old cards compare to Apple's D-series cards.As for when updated Mac Pro models might arrive, that remains unclear, but the good news is that the pieces supporting a potential upgrade are starting to fall into place. While Intel's new processors are reportedly scheduled to arrive next month, it is unlikely a Mac Pro upgrade is that close given Apple's usual iPhone focus for that month. But it seems possible an upgrade could be in the works by late this year or early next year depending on how Apple decides to space out its product launches and at what point it views the Mac Pro as in need of a boost.

Article Link: Intel Preparing to Launch New Xeon Processors for Potential Mac Pro Upgrade

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