Intel Releases new DDR3 chipset - New Mac Pro on the Horizon?

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  1. pilotError macrumors 68020

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    I was reading an article on AnandTech about Intel finally releasing the P35 chipset that supports both DDR2 and DDR3 memory.

    http://anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2989

    One of the interesting parts of the article was that Intel was holding the release for some unknown reason. According to the Article, the release date is officially June 4th; of course thats just happens to be the week before WWDC.

    Speculation anyone?
     
  2. dartzorichalcos macrumors 65816

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    I am guessing before or after WWDC when the "true" Mac Pro update happens.
     
  3. dkoralek macrumors 6502

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    Isn't Bearlake (P35) a desktop chipset for the Core 2 Duo. It essentially, if I am recallling this correctly, is the desktop equivalent of the chipset that is part of Santa Rosa. It will coincide with faster FSB (1.33) Processors, etc. Need an update to the Xeon motherboards.

    cheers.
     
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    Check this chart out.
     
  5. Kosh66 macrumors 6502

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    Mac Pro is waiting for Seaburg (or also called Stoakley) chipset. P35 doesn't appear to be Seaburg.
     
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    Exactly, it is for the desktop line of Core 2 Duos (and Quads). It will not be a chipset compatible with the woodcrest/clovertown xeons (but would work with the conroe/kentsfield based xeons) that Apple uses for the Mac Pro and Stoakley-Seaburg should be implemented in the next workstation chipset (one would hazard to guess that it will also support DDR3 memory, although probably still with the FB-DIMM limitations or benefits depending on your point of view). Just checking the RAM limits on the table clearly shows that P35 is desktop oriented (8 gig).

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  7. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Not anytime soon...

     
  8. dartzorichalcos macrumors 65816

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    Perhaps Apple could implement this chipset into the next iMacs, at least the 24" iMac.
     
  9. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Santa Rosa
     
  10. dartzorichalcos macrumors 65816

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    I don't see anything wrong with putting this new P35 chipset in to the iMac. That should differentiate the iMacs from MacBooks and MacBook Pros. The iMacs, MacBooks and MacBook Pros right now use the same chipset and the iMacs need something that would differentiate them from the portables.
     
  11. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    And how long have we wanted a desktop chip in the iMac? (I suggest looking at our Conroe Vs. Merom Vs. G5 TDP talking from last June-July.)

    How many times has Apple continued to use mobile parts in the iMac? :rolleyes:
     
  12. localoid macrumors 68020

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    The shift to DDR3 begins this year, but its not really likely to move into the mainstream until about 2H 08. Until then, DDR3 will experience the same sorts growing pains, such as DDR2 did during its early stages. Eventually though, it will replace DDR2, just as DDR2 replaced DDR.
     
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    In the iMac, the mobile chips make sense. But, if Apple were to make a low(er) end desktop (a "real" desktop, not an iMac all-in-one) or a low(er) end XServe, Intel desktop processors would make sense. I'm not holding my breathe until that happens tho'...
     
  14. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Careful not to double post. Intel's Montevina platform should support DDR3 on laptops in early 2008.
     
  15. localoid macrumors 68020

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    Double post what?
     
  16. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Here you go. Two in a row.

    Headless desktop Mac has been wanted for years since the $1,400 Power Macs stopped being sold.
     
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    Yeah, I feel the pain (of want.) The G4-DA upgraded to 1.5Ghz, along with virtually everything else that I'm typing from is showing signs of metal fatigue (as I wait for a appropriate replacement.) :p
     
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    Lots of Intel stuff will support it (by then), and you'll see more and more of DDR3 entering the market, but until AMD starts using it in its mainstream offerings (which is expected to happen around 2H 08) DDR3 pricing isn't going to hit the sweet spot, in terms of pricing, in the marketplace. Prices will of course stay high around the holidays, so until early-2009 the DDR2 will likely remain very popular simply because its cheaper. Its all a cycle (of continuous change and progress.)
     
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