Intel Researchers Create Tri-Gate Transistors

[SiliconAddict]

Why does it always seem to me like intel are taking the easy way out?

I think Carbon Nanotubes will be the way to go... But with IBM running that research, will it ever go mainstream?

Who gives a flying crap if its the easy way out. 🙄 If the end results are the same why on earth would you intentionally make things more complicated then they should be. Gah....the concept of KISS seems to have all but died in the last 7 years.

 

[macaddict06]

why on earth would you intentionally make things more complicated then they should be.

Simple, it allows you to say you are making great strides while AMD and the Turion x2 scream ahead.
As a sidenote, if Jobs announces at WWDC that they will allow an option to use AMD in the next MBP's, I will be happy. C'mon Steve, this one's for the gipper...

 

[scem0]

I like tubes better than gates, but that's just a personal preference 😉.

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[Glen Quagmire]

Chip manufacturers have had difficulty extending Moore's law as chip geometry shrinks below 90 nanometers and frequencys escalate to beyond 2 Ghz. In both cases, chips begin to leak more electricity and run less efficiently. One solution is to build multi-core chips, which the industry as a whole has already adopted.

I think you mean "frequencies", not "frequencys". At least you didn't spell it "frequency's".

/spelling nazi

 

[ifjake]

I wouldn't be surprised if, just as they had Mac on Intel in secret back before the switch, Apple's got a handful of machines running on AMD processors. They'll support PPC probably through Leopard, but who knows if they'll keep some secret ongoing PPC builds just in case. I'm just glad their using an architecture that has some competition in it, even if it isn't the best.

 

[A is jump]

Apple, Intel, and Nintendo should all merge. Then they could incorporate the new "Tri-force" technology into their chips. Macs would play Zelda music as they start up. Then, whenever you discovered something new about your computer, it would play the "Secret Discovered" noise that we've all come to love. You know what I'm talking about. "Do do do do do do do do do do!"

If only the world was so wonderful!

 

[ro2nie]

Anyone know when we're gonna see quantum processors?

 

[Shagrat]

I like tubes better than gates, but that's just a personal preference 😉.

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Based on what, by the way? What are the advantages of Buckytubes over Tri-gates? I haven't the SLIGHTEST idea which will be better/feasible in the long/short run, and i wonder how many people here really know which is going to be the viable technology in the future?

Not getting funny/nasty, here, but I hear a lot of opinions in the world these days, but rarely a good reason to back them up!

 

[thogs_cave]

Who gives a flying crap if its the easy way out. 🙄 If the end results are the same why on earth would you intentionally make things more complicated then they should be. Gah....the concept of KISS seems to have all but died in the last 7 years.

First, who knows if the end results would be the same? We're still at the beginning of the curve.

Second, we need to encourage more than the "easy way out". Our greatest strides in technology (and often knowledge) occur when we push the envelope. Much like the space program in the '50s and '60s.

 

[ctachme]

So a new PowerBook on tuesday then?

Anyway, I think nanotubes are a lot cooler because you can build space elevators with them. Not sure how that applies to transistors though.

 

[Vidd]

Then they could incorporate the new "Tri-force" technology into their chips.

You're too late; there is "Triforce technology" but it was Nintendo, Sega and Namco.

 

[killmoms]

Simple, it allows you to say you are making great strides while AMD and the Turion x2 scream ahead.
As a sidenote, if Jobs announces at WWDC that they will allow an option to use AMD in the next MBP's, I will be happy. C'mon Steve, this one's for the gipper...

That's nonsense. Intel's not halting development on current chips to pursue tri-gate, they're RESEARCHING tri-gate to see if it's a technology they can harness in their chips.

Besides, AMD isn't screaming ahead—if anything, they're lagging behind Core 2 at the moment. Competition is good—Intel's faster now, AMD cuts prices, Intel responds... all these things are good for the consumer.

 

[boncellis]

In my opinion, the not too distant future will see diminishing returns on the amount of processing power needed by the average consumer--the real leaps and bounds will come in lower power consumption to the point where efficiency becomes a major selling point.

I love reading this forum because I learn things I would never have learned other places. Even in this instance when no one really understands what the news item means, you can still glean something about the impact new technology will have on the market.

Or, in the alternative, you can learn who knows their stuff and who has no idea about this sort of thing. I believe I fall in the latter category.

 

[killmoms]

In my opinion, the not too distant future will see diminishing returns on the amount of processing power needed by the average consumer--the real leaps and bounds will come in lower power consumption to the point where efficiency becomes a major selling point.

Honestly, people have been saying that since the dawn of computing. Trouble is, we keep finding new ways to utilize the ever-increasing processing power we have, and we want more. I agree that efficiency will become a selling point, but never more-so than power, except to a few specific groups. Not only do we crave "more more more," programmers keep finding ways to use it up. 😉

 

[boncellis]

...Not only do we crave "more more more," programmers keep finding ways to use it up. 😉

That is true--I should point out that I didn't mean to suggest that the market won't support it, because it certainly will--just that I think I'll be happy with the processing power of my 1.67 PB until the day it dies.

You do raise a good point though, and it becomes somewhat circular after a while, but the eventual "bloating" of software where unnecessary (see, e.g. Windows 2000) doesn't factor into the equation when I look at a new machine. Perhaps it should.

 

[Di9it8]

Moores Law

As long a Moores Law is maintained that will keep the boffins going.
After tri-gates will there be sex-gates??😀

 

[Macnoviz]

Anyone know when we're gonna see quantum processors?

I read a few months ago they had build the first quantum chip, with standard ports (NOR, AND, ..., don't quote me on that)


but before it will be seen in the new powerbook on thuesday, I guess we're gonna have to wait at least a dozen of years. Great things are in store, though, stuff being one, zero, or both and such, only problem is that everything will have to be rebuild from scratch: hardware, OS, software, everything that was built upon binary digits will be completely useless.

But you can't really say quantum processors, because even now, there are several technologies, one outrunning the other.

I think at that point, we might be seeing totally photorealistic games (not that shiny, obviously fake look of eg the new XBOX 360 games)


Or to quote my favourite Fast Show character:

Aren't computers brilliant? In the future computers will do everything, brillinat, aint'it? Except play soccer, computers would suck as a goalie, wouldn't they?

 

[scem0]

Based on what, by the way? What are the advantages of Buckytubes over Tri-gates? I haven't the SLIGHTEST idea which will be better/feasible in the long/short run, and i wonder how many people here really know which is going to be the viable technology in the future?

Not getting funny/nasty, here, but I hear a lot of opinions in the world these days, but rarely a good reason to back them up!

It was a joke about my sexuality 🙂.

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[NewSc2]

Apple, Intel, and Nintendo should all merge. Then they could incorporate the new "Tri-force" technology into their chips. Macs would play Zelda music as they start up. Then, whenever you discovered something new about your computer, it would play the "Secret Discovered" noise that we've all come to love. You know what I'm talking about. "Do do do do do do do do do do!"

that would be so badass. Hit power button.. "do dooo, dah-dah-dah-dah doo!"

 

[ammon]

Besides, AMD isn't screaming ahead—if anything, they're lagging behind Core 2 at the moment.

This has yet to be proven. Initial benchmarks on Intel's own boxes show Core 2 being faster, but wait until next year.

When AMD and IBM go to their 65nm chips with dual stress liner and stress memorization technology on silicon on insulator (DSL and SMT on SOI) Intel will be running for the hills!

 

[ezekielrage_99]

but they're not carbon 😛

A carbon nano tube for my iPod nano would be sweet 😀

 

[johnthevulcan]

Ok Most Of You Dont Get It

CHECK OUT WHAT HOWSTUFFWORKS.COM HAS TO SAY ABOUT PROCESSORS IN GENERAL AND YOU WILL SEE THAT TRI GATE OR NANO TUBES (GIGGLES) WILL MAKE OUR PC'S OR MACS MORE AND MORE LIKE THE COMPUTERS IN STAR TREK, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ALL THAT MATTERS.



BTW THE STAR TREK COMPUTERS WILL RUN WITH A MAC OS.😎

 

[~Shard~]

CHECK OUT WHAT HOWSTUFFWORKS.COM HAS TO SAY ABOUT PROCESSORS IN GENERAL AND YOU WILL SEE THAT TRI GATE OR NANO TUBES (GIGGLES) WILL MAKE OUR PC'S OR MACS MORE AND MORE LIKE THE COMPUTERS IN STAR TREK, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ALL THAT MATTERS.



BTW THE STAR TREK COMPUTERS WILL RUN WITH A MAC OS.😎

Is there anything more annoying then typing in all caps?

😛 😎

 

[ezekielrage_99]

CHECK OUT WHAT HOWSTUFFWORKS.COM HAS TO SAY ABOUT PROCESSORS IN GENERAL AND YOU WILL SEE THAT TRI GATE OR NANO TUBES (GIGGLES) WILL MAKE OUR PC'S OR MACS MORE AND MORE LIKE THE COMPUTERS IN STAR TREK, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ALL THAT MATTERS.



BTW THE STAR TREK COMPUTERS WILL RUN WITH A MAC OS.😎

If it's in caps it just has to be right.......

And for the people who don't know the complexities of the "Caps Lock" it's marked on the image below.

 

[BlueRevolution]

I like tubes better than gates, but that's just a personal preference 😉.

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Tubes suck!