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the.snitch said:
How about a 13" Macbook comes out, and a 10" Macbook mini (no optical drive, extremely small, long battery life).

Thus our lineup of notebooks is
. Macbook mini
. Macbook
. Macbook Pro

It makes sense to me. Enough of the Tablet already. Sure, i'd love one, but i dont think we're quite "there" yet. Just point and laugh at MS and their origami for now..
I'm waiting for the multi-touch technology before that gets exciting.

I too think there is a better chance for ultraportables than for tablets, especially if you can hit the right price. But, a 10" Macbook mini with no optical drive and long battery life...this sounds like an obsolete Sony Vaio I have sitting in my closet. That thing was crap then, dealing with external drives and a brainfart keyboard; Apple can do better, but it'll still not be comparable to a 12" PB. Hey, what if it could way 2 lbs? Sure, great. Fine. Since when did the processor way 3 lbs? Exactly. Now we need to shave practically everything in order to make it ultraportable. Then, you have an ultrahandicapped ultraportable. Good for some? Undoubtedly. Worth trying? That's up to Apple.
 
MacMyFast said:
As a former business traveler, I think there is a market for that kind of machine. However, not for Macs. I love my Mac, but I need a subcompact notebook to run work applications like Visio and Project. Last time I checked, you can't run those on OSX...unless of course, you have setup your dual boot.

I'm a current business traveller, and I'd be all over it. But then, I don't need to run Visio and Project.
 
I very much doubt that the iBook will use these processors - they are far too slow.

The Mini would be more powerful than such an iBook.
 
I second all of you who don't want an ULV in their iBook without an optical drive and with a small screen!
The iBook would really lose a lot of value as the iMac to go, or an ideal laptop for students like myself. I even like it being a bit less thinner than usual, and I doubt a laptop like the gateway could stand equal shocks as the iBook.:D

P.S. I'm really getting worried now about Apple's birthday party, where are those rumors and invitations??:eek:
 
Its more like a downgraded notebook than ultra portable. Don't go half way by making it a semi-portable notebook, it should be either ultra light, regular notebook, or a Desktop Replacement notebook. So while the price is pretty decent, the specs (i'm not looking at the processor speed) is not that good.

This is much more portable. The Panasonic R4 featuring a 1.2 Pentium M, 2.2lbs, 10.4" display, and a battery life of 9 hours :eek:. All for the price of $1800. Now this is an ultra portable notebook.

More specs avaliable at dynamism.com
 
Yup.

This Intel ULV Core Solo Processor is perfect for Apple's MacPod/MacPad [clipboard sized pda/tablet hybrid], "Origami" killer. The hOrridgami's too small 7" screen, thickness and weight will be it's downfalls.

Hopefully this widescreen 11.x" [horizontal] ultra thin, ultra light, and ultra low voltage Apple MacPod/MacPad [think of just a widescreen 11" MacBook display, no base] will be able to view full size 8.5" x 11" pages as well as 8" x 10" photos and widescreen video at decent resolutions. This would be the perfect companion to a Mac [especially the mini], but certainly not a replacement. It would be really cool if this could double as a "mini" reference display that we could connect to a Mac mini as well. $699 would be a good price point IMO [if it doubles as a display, $499 if it doesn't], as that would be competeitively, or even better priced than the hOrridgami and brings it close to the 17" iMacs price range [if combined with a Mac mini], therefore making it easy to upsell people to the iMac line who absolutely need a display.

Maybe instead of MacPod/MacPad, they'll call it Mac Mobile [Mac Mobile Phone to come later ;) ]. Or if they release a separate product entirely from the MacPod/MacPad/Mac Mobile to be used solely as a monitor, they could call it the Apple Display mini and sell it for $149 [11" diagonal]. People would eat those up with either of the Mac mini's, but with the $799 Core Duo, you'd get a Mac mini "system" for $949. It'd be even cooler if they introduced an Apple Keyboard mini [full size keys] that cuts off the current Apple keyboards at the F12 key [no F13+ keys, keypad, etc. that I never use anyway]. Just offer those extra keys separately as an Apple Keyboard mini Keypad attachment if needed. Bundle that Apple Keypoard mini with an Apple Mouse, or new Apple Mouse mini [mini Mouse?... both wired, of course] for $49.

Now you've got the COMPLETE Mac Mini system for $999. Cheaper than the 17" iMac, but the specs aren't nearly as good. Same price as a MacBook, but not nearly as portable.

Take a piece of regular [8.5 x 11] paper and hold it up horizontally [landscape] in front of you on a table or desk [center it with the "esc" key and F12 key on an Apple Keyboard... 11" EXACTLY!], and imagine that 11" screen size with Apple's current display design and a Mac mini next to it, or under it if it fits [I'm not sure], and an Apple Keyboard mini in front of the display... VERY COOL.

I hope Apple releases widescreen MacBooks at $999 and $1199. 13" for both is alright, but 11" & 13" would be interesting to appease all the "sub-compacties" out there. All Macs, laptops and desktops, should have superdrives at this point, period.

Core Duo 1.66Ghz in the $999 and 1.83Ghz in the $1199. NO SOLO's in ANY MAC other than the low end Mac mini. Hopefully the next revision of the Mac mini will give the low end model a Core Duo and Superdrive.

I see this happening if something like the MacPod/MacPad/Mac mini Mobile is introduced with this ULV Core Solo processor and possibly no optical drive at all, but no more than a combo drive if one is included.
 
MacQuest said:
[...] Take a piece of regular [8.5 x 11] paper and hold it up horizontally [landscape] in front of you on a table or desk [center it with the "esc" key and F12 key on an Apple Keyboard... 11" EXACTLY!], and imagine that 11" screen size with Apple's current display design and a Mac mini next to it, or under it if it fits [I'm not sure], and an Apple Keyboard mini in front of the display... VERY COOL.[...]

Not to burst your bubble, but the 12" PowerBook is already (almost) the size of a letter-size paper sheet. :cool:

I do agree, though, that designing a companion sub-laptop changes the requirements (I'd go with no optical drive, smaller screen/keyboard, lower processing power and memory, weaker GPU, etc).
 
(L) said:
I doubt Apple will find any market for ultraportables. They're uncomfortable, to say the least, when computers are getting lighter, faster, simpler.... I use a 12" PB.

I have to disagree, completely. The 12" ibook is a brick and it's high time Apple came out with an ultraportable. Something for the beach, the car, running from a hurricane. :)

The Dell 700m is one of my favorite PC's only because of its form factor. Apple can steal my business any day with a small Mac!
 
Yea the iBooks are really thick but I think I would definately buy a mac laptop that was 15" and had a INCLUDED external optical drive. That would be awesome.

Cause I rarely burn stuff anymore. Like c'mon..I have the iPod and I can send email attachments to up 15 MB. And if that doesn't work there are USB key fobs and then there's also a server upload thing [some] people can use.

Optical drives are only good for installing things and I mean, you only have to do that once for every program.

The gateway laptop shown at the website isn't THAT bad looking. It's actually kind of nice. I wish the iBooks came in a choice of white or black, but the black keeping with the acryllic look (like the white ones). that would be so awesome!

DUUUUDE.
 
iEric said:
Optical drives are only good for installing things and I mean, you only have to do that once for every program...

You're right about installing stuff, but I think people would appreciate the included DVD/Blu-ray drive so they can use it to watch movies. I guess I see this more as a potential consumer/companion device than something purely for productivity.

I also wanted to ask, how are those H/K soundsticks? I was going to get the Klipsch iFi, but the Apple store doesn't have them anymore and I can't find a decent price on them anywhere else. I've always liked the look of the soundsticks.
 
I'd like to have an Apple ultra light portable. The 12" is simply too large, heavy and hot for me, and the optical drive is a redundancy that I don't need and don't want to carry.

If they'd actually listen to those of us that travel often and make this machine, they'd up their install base on the road warrior market. It's larger than you think.
 
All their "smaller" consumer notebooks are bricks, 12"pb, both ibooks. I'm not sure if it's the heat/battery isuues that kept them so large for so long, or it's Steve's egocentricity that he knows best and we should carry an optical drive 24/7 when we all have ipods, usb keys, emails, ftp, webdav, flash readers, pda's, and the list goes on. Ship it with an external usb drive and be done with it. Charge me whatever for the "priviledge" of having a thin computer.. I know you're going to hike up the price anyway.

chatin said:
I have to disagree, completely. The 12" ibook is a brick and it's high time Apple came out with an ultraportable. Something for the beach, the car, running from a hurricane. :)

The Dell 700m is one of my favorite PC's only because of its form factor. Apple can steal my business any day with a small Mac!
 
Yvan256 said:
Not to burst your bubble, but the 12" PowerBook is already (almost) the size of a letter-size paper sheet. :cool:

No bubble bursted, yet again, I'll re-iterate:
MacQuest said:
Hopefully this widescreen 11.x" [horizontal] ultra thin, ultra light, and ultra low voltage Apple MacPod/MacPad [think of just a widescreen 11" MacBook display, no base]...

I'm not talking about the 12" PowerBook. I'm talking about a device that would look like just the display of the 12" PowerBook in thickness and weight, but that would be an 11" widescreen instead.

Yvan256 said:
I do agree, though, that designing a companion sub-laptop changes the requirements (I'd go with no optical drive, smaller screen/keyboard, lower processing power and memory, weaker GPU, etc).

I'd agree with everything you've said except for the keyboard, unless it was a virtual keyboard like the ones we've seen mock-ups of over the past few weeks.

I would not classify this as a companion sub-laptop at all. It would be a sub-compact companion to a laptop.notebook or desktop.
 
Forget all this Tablet nonsense for a while. Apple will release an ultraportable laptop way before a tablet.

That being said, I would be ALL OVER a ultraportable Macbook Nano! Think back to the iPod Nano, everyone couldn't believe how small Jobs wanted it but got the job done. Remember the X505 Laptop from sony that was less than 0.5" thick, just over 1lb and 6hrs of battery life? The same can be done to the Macbook.

Id like to see the following in a Macbook Nano:
a 12" or smaller widescreen
capable of handling at least 1.5GB of ram
still runs on a 2.5" SATA HDD
2 USB 2.0
1 FW400 4-pin
Mini DVI or HDMI out capable of driving a 30" ACD
EXPRESSCARD
no optical drive
seriously long battery life (>5hrs)
under 4lbs

That would be the perfect laptop for me. So light I'd never even know i had it with me, plenty of battery life, and still good performance. The key will be good connectivity so i could hook up a fast external HD for storage and a DVD/CD drive to install apps.

-Zach
 
boncellis said:
I wasn't too big on all the Macintosh tablet rumors floating around out there, but the more I think about it the more I can see myself using something like it. I have heard wonderful things about the low voltage capabilities of Transmeta processors, but nothing about the Intel counterpart. If it's a modified Pentium III with 3 hours of battery life (as someone suggested) then I would not be very impressed.

The first thing that occurred to me when I read this was that the described processor would be implemented into the next incarnation of the iBook, but now I think a tablet-style companion computer would make more sense. If Apple does it right, I, and many others, would take it with us wherever we go. Such dependence has to be good for Apple, one would think.

Agreed completely. An iTablet would be a dream come true...assuming it was portable enough. I would be much more interested in a slate-type tablet rather than a hybrid (with folding keyboard thingy). If it was made to truely be a companion to the iMac or MacBooks, then a slate form factor would be perfect...It seems like the ULV really could fill this niche.
 
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