Maybe "a handful" is 10 watts or under, if we go with a finger count? That would make sense given the 15 watts comparison.
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Maybe "a handful" is 10 watts or under, if we go with a finger count? That would make sense given the 15 watts comparison.
It is, potentially, even more than that.
The mini, it's price, and what market I assume it is targeted at, all tell a potentially compelling narrative towards it being the first of the OSX Arm machines.
A 200~300$ Mac Nano (32GB / 128 GB versions maybe?) running ARM with two USB ports and an HDMI port (Maybe SD card...?) could very well be a thing.
This would make sense as it would be an ideal home computer for someone with XP / Vista who only uses online services and maybe some light productivity app work.
It would also make sense as 200~300$ is worth a shot for devs to just play with.
- IF - that is on the cards, I would expect that the new swift language is designed to work well on both Intel / ARM platforms and it will be a simple compiling difference in xCode and uploading two binaries to the AppStore in order to target both platforms.
Karl "Speculation is Fun" P
I gave up and built my own PC. Apple is NEVER NEVER NEVER going to sell a headless iMac or any sort of regular Mac Desktop. It'll cannibalize their AIWs and the Pro. I'd venture to bet they'd lose 65% of their Mac Pro sales and 35% of their iMac sales if they did so.
Surely though a handful is how many you can carry in a hand, not the number of fingers!
How old are you?
We are sleepwalking now compared to the pace of change years ago.
Everyone back then was leapfrogging each other all the time, and totally brand new machines were coming out all over the place.
These days it's dullsville in comparison.
I don't understand these "cannibalize" arguments. A sale is a sale, I'm guessing Apple always tries to have roughly the same profit margin on everything they sell.
Of course the margin on a lower-priced Mac means less profits, however given the number of comments about people who don't want an all-in-one, I'm guessing the loss of sales (and the loss of potential switchers) is much greater than any "cannibalization" that would happen with a "screen-less iMac" (i.e. decent CPU and GPU).
The only two non-laptop options are, for a lot of people, the Mac mini and the Mac Pro. There is a terrible gap between these two units, both in price and in computing power.
I'm sorry to say you are right.
I would probably of had a Mac years ago if, like a PC I could of chose how I wanted it and the price I wanted.
Hey, if Apple are SOOOOOO clever why can't they write an OS that works on almost any hardware combination like Msoft can do ?
Apple could of slaughtered windows years ago if they had done this.
Even now, if OSX ran on almost any hardware combination, like Windows, their market desktop share would probably blow sky high after a little while.
... Good luck ... I'll be waiting for that and user-serviceable/replaceable batteries (for the phones and tablets) ....
Yeah, Mac Mini has quad-core CPU and dedicated graphics and is exactly what an iMac would be without display
Meh, close enough for me. But I don't game or do anything particularly interesting.
The integrated graphics is the only bottleneck for me at this point, but not by much. Compared to the x3100 I had before, the HD 4000 in the mini is light years ahead in terms of performance.
Dreaming
Apple TV sized Mini please but in brushed aluminium. With fanless quad core, 128 PCIe SSD and next gen Iris Pro please.
Please?
Please?
Apple TV sized Mini please but in brushed aluminium. With fanless quad core, 128 PCIe SSD and next gen Iris Pro please.
Please?
Please?
johnnyturbouk
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Yeah, Mac Mini has quad-core CPU and dedicated graphics and is exactly what an iMac would be without display
It does indeed have quad core. But it does not have the dedicated graphics, instead relying on integrated graphics.
Just the opposite of my reaction. I would love to see the Air product line switch completely to ARM one of these days. The A7 computational core has shown what the architecture can do-- they now need to figure out how they want to beef up the graphics and I/O.
You gave up? Why didn't you buy the old Mac Pro when it was available?
A Mac Pro is an expensive workstation. What we want is a mid-size tower. iMac Consumer-grade CPU with PCIe slots.
I gave up too and built a Hackintosh. I'll only buy Apple laptops from now on.
Yesterday's keynote reinforced that Apple is not interested in making a 2-in-1 hybrid which ultimately results in either an under-powered laptop with a small screen or an oversized tablet that is uncomfortable to hold.
They are fine with OS X running on Macs for people who use a Mac in scenarios where the Mac is appropriate. iOS for the iPhone and iPad in situations where they are appropriate. The end.
They are fine with OS X running on Macs for people who use a Mac in scenarios where the Mac is appropriate. iOS for the iPhone and iPad in situations where they are appropriate. The end.
With increased utilization of iCloud storage / iTunes Match, etc., I'm thinking the fanless, diskless $100 puck is finally going to end the PC era for all but about 2% of the population.
A sale is not a sale, as you point out yourself...
What investors/shareholders and top management are focused on is shareholder value. That comes from profits, not volume...
If Apple can get massive profits from selling to just 8-10% of the market, and let's face it, it is doing just that, then why lower brand, value, margin etc just to sell more? Apple already has the vast majority of the profit available in the PC/tablet market space.
That there is a potentially large volume market of people who WANT an Apple laptop or desktop, but either cannot, or will not, pay for it, should not be the primary reason to drop price, quality, brand etc simply to grab that slice of the market - it's just not a profitable slice of business - ask Dell, HP, Lenovo, and everybody else in the non-Apple camp - it's tough out there!
good news
I look forward to seeing what computers will be made with these chips. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
Glad to see this.
I look forward to seeing what computers will be made with these chips. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
Glad to see this.
You're kidding right? I'm 33 years old and these days technology leaps forward a lot faster than before. Just look at how much mobile computing changed in 7 years since the introduction of the iPhone. Which 7 years can you point out in the 80's or 90's that saw that kind of a change?