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Intel's Iris Graphics Boost 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro GPU Performance by 50% or More
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Not quite, the new 2.6 wins 6, the new 2.4 wins 1 (only just) and the old 13" 2.6 wins 2.
I don't understand that last test at all. The blurb under it says that the flash storage in the new 2.6 is faster than that in the old 13" in both read and write and that shows up in the copy time, the first of the three tests, what on earth is going on in the other two tests (compress and decompress a 6Gb folder) which is making the new ones so very slow.
Both my CPU (C2D) and GPU (320M) are idling. The only metric of speed I'm vaguely interested in is SSD.
And thats whats killing the 128GB model. Not storage space but storage speed is intolerable!
For what it's worth, I am actually glad they now offer the 15" MacBook Pro without a dedicated graphics chip. The laptop is now cheaper thanks to that and the Intel Iris is already more powerful than I need anyway. I reckon it will sell very well.
If you are a gamer, get a freakin playstation or a Windows box. If you're a pro and NEED the dGPU for your work, go and get the higher-end model. That's why it's there in the first place...
I'm quite disappointed in how the 13" and 15" Haswell retina mbp perform. I expected more. On the other hand, it saves me from gear envy as my 1st gen rmbp essentially still kicks butt when compared to the latest and greatest.
What I absolutely do not like from this move to Intel gfx though is that the nvidea drivers could still use some work and I fear Apple will be more interested in optimizing the intel drivers than they are to improve the 'old' nvidea drivers.
What I absolutely do not like from this move to Intel gfx though is that the nvidea drivers could still use some work and I fear Apple will be more interested in optimizing the intel drivers than they are to improve the 'old' nvidea drivers.
I still stand by my previous comments for a 15" rMBP with a price tag of USD$1999 it's too expensive for without a dGPU.
That isn't the case. The lack of dGPU is not factored at all in Apple's pricing.
For $1999 you get a 2.0/8GB/256GB machine without a dGPU. Configuring the base model to 2.3/16GB/512GB costs $2599, the same price as the higher base model, but without a dGPU. If the $200 drop could be attributed to dropping the dGPU, then the higher base model would be priced at $2799.
Alright buddy, I think it's time to quit posting. You've shown a few times over that you seemingly cannot form anything of substance into a sentence.
He can't stop posting yet, he hasn't told us how using AMD CPUs and GPUs would have made this much better.
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I'm wondering the same thing. That whole table doesn't really show any clear winners between the new/old hardware.
loving my rmbp 13"
I am simply loving my new rmbp 13" 8gb Ram 256gb ssd 2.4ghz
It has been my new mbp since 2008 ahahaah
It is really cool and the battery really lasts a lot.
I went to apple store and it was the last rmbp 13" of this model. I was so lucky eheh
If I was using safari instead of chrome the battery would last even longer, still it is a shock. And the graphics are insanely good!
I am simply loving my new rmbp 13" 8gb Ram 256gb ssd 2.4ghz
It has been my new mbp since 2008 ahahaah
It is really cool and the battery really lasts a lot.
I went to apple store and it was the last rmbp 13" of this model. I was so lucky eheh
If I was using safari instead of chrome the battery would last even longer, still it is a shock. And the graphics are insanely good!
Test a high end 15 asap please!
Excited to jettison my 2011 MBP. She's been a faithful machine, but it's time my old girl.
Excited to jettison my 2011 MBP. She's been a faithful machine, but it's time my old girl.
Anyone that knows hardware and money knows the 13" Pro is a ripoff.
My recommendation would be to shell out an additional $600 for a juicier CPU, double RAM and Flash Storage, and a dedicated 750M GPU! With a 15" screen! So much more for an additional $600.
OR
Get a maxed out 13" Air.
One of these is a much better deal than the 13" Retina Pro. Wait until next year when Apple releases the Air's with retina display. Then we'll have a new champion laptop in the market.
My recommendation would be to shell out an additional $600 for a juicier CPU, double RAM and Flash Storage, and a dedicated 750M GPU! With a 15" screen! So much more for an additional $600.
OR
Get a maxed out 13" Air.
One of these is a much better deal than the 13" Retina Pro. Wait until next year when Apple releases the Air's with retina display. Then we'll have a new champion laptop in the market.
Hoping that this is the first 13" Retina MacBook Pro worth buying. Between the Iris graphics and Mavericks there should be little to no display lag.
I agree that the old 2.6 only wins 2; I didn't see that Mathematica test was looking for highest score. However, taking all the original results from the Macworld report and doing an average of the percentage improvements (pluses ands minuses) over the reference (Old 2.6) you get New 2.4 at 7% better and New 2.6 at 16% better. I know this is a simplistic way to calculate the overall meaning of these tests but I haven't got better, and it gives a comparison.
The only really significant improvements are in the graphics results (Open GL and Unigine). Still looks quite a modest improvement overall.
I still loathe Intel graphics and have for many years; I'll never buy laptop that has them exclusively. Especially a 15" MBP for $2000.
Nothing is invitable but death but if you say that decisione were already taken this Summer i agree with you.
Nevertheless i've dropped my intention to buy the Haswell 15 ,
for 2000€ i want the discrete Gpus and not an AirBook Pro and 600€ for a discrete is offensive and ridicolous.
I mean the 15 without the Nvidia is basically a 13 with the quad,which is what the 13 needs to be,
a real pro and not an Air overpriced.
So i suppose i will wait for a refurbished one with 650m or maybe with an Air with quad..in the 2017.. ,
same with iphone5c at 629€ .
Wallet closed.
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So its not me alone then
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You say,believe Apple will ?
I mean a retina for the Air?
So basically will be a 13 inches MacBook Pro but even slimmer.
I hope you're right and to see a quad landing in the 13 inches MacBook Pro but i fear not and just a dual core spec bump next 2014 Air with the same display.
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Still a wrong price even if hardware prices are makin this happen.
The question is ,is it really due to Hardware prices or due to Apple's decision to axe Pros making profits forcing their idea to pay 2000€ for a Pro machine lacking a discrete gpus?For me personally i'm not buying it,literally.
Also i'm waiting to see Mac Pro entry benchmarks with Gpus and to hear if upgradable Gpus rumors are true,
because 2625 € for a MacBook Pro 15-750 m are really close to the Mac Pro entry price,you're right,these are different machines but my needs and my wallet are the same.
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Having to pay 2625 or just 2000€ for a machine without a discrete gpu leave me just with the choice to wait a little more in order to be able to buy a Mac Pro,which has no glue inside^^(This just if reviews will convice me that this machine worths the money its asking.Otherwise i'll go refurbished with a MacBookPro 15-650m or even better or i'll waiting for next 2014 13 retina Quad hoping could lead the 15 to be back the one i was waiting for) .
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I agree with you speaking about the gaming,but i disagree about the fact to be happy about the Gpu removal in the entry price,without the Gpu i don't feel it exactly cheaper,i would have been happy if that machine could have been sold at 1800 but not more and plus a 200€ Bto option for the Nvidia .
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Where did you pull that number from?
Macbook Pro Retina 13"
- Base US $1299
- All Options US $1978
And why do you keep repeating it in all of your multiple posts?
If people like you would read the whole thread before posting, I would not have to repeat myself.
refurb 15inch with the 650m 1gb video card on sale at applestore for 1600. or you can pay 1900 to have it removed
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
pleaseeee defend the new macbook 15 more. PLEASE.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
pleaseeee defend the new macbook 15 more. PLEASE.
Statistically marginal performance changes combined with huge battery increases is ok in my book.
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12 hour battery life with 50% screen brightness (as on the Ars review) is incredible.