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And here’s a surprising feature that Apple hasn’t said anything about previously: When the Watch is in a known WiFi hot spot, the watch can perform the most essential online functions even when your phone is completely dead, turned off, or absent. It can query Siri, for example, send and receive texts, and send/receive drawings and tap patterns to other Watch owners. That’s impressive.

This is awesome, and probably what Kevin Lynch was talking about on March 9.


https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-apple-watch-half-computer-half-jewelry-115815015484.html
 
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This is awesome, and probably what Kevin Lynch was talking about on March 9.


https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-apple-watch-half-computer-half-jewelry-115815015484.html

Awesome! Which seems to mean that at home or at work (where I have wifi), I don't need my phone at all - I can use my watch for notifications.

It's all I really use a phone for. I make about 1 call a day, about 20 text messages a day, watch email, and some notifications. I can do that (all except for making the phone call) with my phone still in my car.
 
So it can connect to router directly?

Yes. There seems to have been this growing implication that the watch is going to use wifi to connect directly to the phone. It won't. It will use Bluetooth for that. But it will connect to various service via wifi, and also to the phone over a known wifi network. Why? Because now you can wander around your whole house, well outside the range of BTLE.

The next few months are going to be chock full of people having their expectations exceeded with this device. Apple has been so incredibly understated in their claims. It's going to be fun!
 
Yeah they just won't be posting in this thread
TBH, there hasn't been any public information backing up that a Watch could access known wifi hotspots until now, and the official Apple statements have inferred it was a direct connection to your phone.

It may indeed be a direct connection to your phone when the two are in range of each other for all we know. There just isn't enough information available, someone needs to take a packet sniffer to these devices to truly find out what's going on... :p
 
They have already said that it would connect directly to a router so that it can communicate with a phone that is out of Bluetooth Range, but on the same WiFi network (for example, I often leave my phone in my home office, which is in the basement at one end of the house. Luckily, my Pebble reaches the far side of the house - only just barely.)
 
Thanks for posting this! I've been looking for clarification on this and couldn't find any reviewers mentioning it.
 
They have already said that it would connect directly to a router so that it can communicate with a phone that is out of Bluetooth Range, but on the same WiFi network (for example, I often leave my phone in my home office, which is in the basement at one end of the house. Luckily, my Pebble reaches the far side of the house - only just barely.)

The general consensus was that it would connect to your phone, which is connected to a wifi network....not that it would actually connect to the wifi networks itself.
 
Yep. There has been a ton of stuff saying that if watch and phone are on the same Wi-Fi then you extend the range. I will be able to leave my phone in the gym locker because of that. If the watch is on Wi-Fi I can see it is possible to do a little more without the phone needed. I will likely not need that myself because my iPhone 6+ has a pretty long life.
 
But how? iCloud Keychain? Or will it 'sync' with your iPhone's data via the Apple Watch App?
 
It must "borrow" the connection details from your iPhone, including password, and connect seamlessly behind the scenes. I speculated on this twice before and no one commented on it. :D
 
Awesome! Which seems to mean that at home or at work (where I have wifi), I don't need my phone at all - I can use my watch for notifications.

Umm, doesn't sound like it can do that, since most notifications come from the phone.

It's all I really use a phone for. I make about 1 call a day, about 20 text messages a day, watch email, and some notifications. I can do that (all except for making the phone call) with my phone still in my car.

Real SMS text messages, or internet iMessages? Real SMS require a phone.

Also doesn't sound like it's going to get email.

Sounds like it only does things that rely on a connection to an Apple server (?)

Nevertheless, being independent in any way is a good thing. It was one of my favorite features of my 2010 WiMM watch... it sync'd RSS feeds, time, you name it, over WiFi without needing a phone at all.
 
Umm, doesn't sound like it can do that, since most notifications come from the phone.



Real SMS text messages, or internet iMessages? Real SMS require a phone.

Also doesn't sound like it's going to get email.

Sounds like it only does things that rely on a connection to an Apple server (?)

Nevertheless, being independent in any way is a good thing. It was one of my favorite features of my 2010 WiMM watch... it sync'd RSS feeds, time, you name it, over WiFi without needing a phone at all.

But what about non-cellular iPads? Mine can still send and receive real SMS now??
 
But what about non-cellular iPads? Mine can still send and receive real SMS now??

Only if you've set up Continuity SMS Relay through your iPhone.

(Your iPad can only send/receive blue internet iMessages over WiFi. To talk over green SMS, your phone is required. With SMS relay, your ipad sends an iMessage to Apple, who relays it to your phone, which then sends an SMS text to the recipient. And vice versa.)
 
Umm, doesn't sound like it can do that, since most notifications come from the phone.



Real SMS text messages, or internet iMessages? Real SMS require a phone.

Also doesn't sound like it's going to get email.

Sounds like it only does things that rely on a connection to an Apple server (?)

Nevertheless, being independent in any way is a good thing. It was one of my favorite features of my 2010 WiMM watch... it sync'd RSS feeds, time, you name it, over WiFi without needing a phone at all.

It would depend if it's a pushed notification from an iPhone app or if you had the watch app installed I would assume.

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Only if you've set up Continuity SMS Relay through your iPhone.

(Your iPad can only send/receive blue internet iMessages over WiFi. To talk over green SMS, your phone is required. With SMS relay, your ipad sends an iMessage to Apple, who relays it to your phone, which then sends an SMS text to the recipient. And vice versa.)

Not quite.
 
Yeah, despite Apple's tech specs clearly stating it has 802.11b/g wifi.

Apple's tech specs don't always mean that it can do everything with that tech - just that the tech exists.

Apple's iPhone 6 has NFC - but it ONLY works with Apple Pay. A 3rd party application can't access the NFC chip.
 
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