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Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by PollyK, Aug 21, 2013.
It's clear Samsung dominates Android, but here's some stats on it's users.
if samsung doesn't improve touchwiz and move to more premium material for their phones it will take no time for HTC, Sony, LG, etc. to destroy samsung's dominance.
Good luck with that theory.
Samsung simply makes the best flagship android phone hands down.
Nah, something tells me they'll be alright.
So now we've gone from Apple is doomed to Samsung is doomed.
It's pretty uncanny the similarities between Sammy and Apple when they both pretend they are nothing alike.
Before they're done, I hope Samsung can make it long enough to get me a Galaxy Note 3
None of the other OEM's have managed to come anywhere near the place Samsung are at now. Even during their peak HTC were never this big. In the smartphone business the big boys are Apple and Samsung. The others haven't stepped up to the plate.
Good luck with that. HTC, LG, Sony don't hold a handle to Samsung.
Apple + HTC + Sony + LG COMBINED still doesnt match smartphone global marketshare with Samsung right now. Samsung owns like over 30% globally. Apple is a far 2nd at 13% and LG (3rd place ), Sony, and HTC are fighting for table scraps with multiple Chinese vendors and over-the-hill smartphone champs like Nokia and BlackBerry at anywhere between 3-5% per marketshare each.
HTC is not even Top 10 anymore. Sad to see one of Android pioneers that first helped the platform take its early steps with the HTC Dream & Passion (aka G1 & Nexus One) fall out of the Top 10 globally even if it is a distant #3 in the US, but that's life.
Sales and shipments may not mean squat without actually making a profit but Samsung is winning that too.
Apple loses most profitable smartphone vendor title to Samsung
slightly off topic but somewhat related to Samsung's choice of build material.
Here is a video I saw that compares the "premium" iphone 5 to the "plastic" galaxy S3 in a blender...
eventually they both become smartphone dust in short time but the plastic phone lasts longer in that torture environment compared to the premium build...
PS. I love my blendtec...
What i wanna know is who are the avid runners that actually use a tablet while running???
I can't stand touchwiz. I really liked the feel of the Galaxy S2, but after that i did not like the way Samsung made their flagship phone out of plastic. I like how Htc makes their phones but again, their Sense skin is horrible.
I wish Sony and Lg would step up their game.
I'm fairly sure they ought to be able to keep the shop doors open just long enough to turn out that one last Galaxy Note 3 for you.
but dont you think that samsung should refresh touchwiz and move to premium materials?
yes they dont, but if samsung stops(or slows down) improving, things can change QUICKLY
but...this has nothing to do what i was saying.
NO, but we will if samsung doesn't step up their game
of course the will be, if they start adapting a bit quickly. they didn't adapt quickly(in the GS4) and they suffered a huge loss and lower than expected sales.
you know, 7 guys(including you) argued with me on this point, and i dont think i need to explain my point to each and everyone.
Samsung is no 1 because it offers a lot more than HTC/Sony who continue to go with stupid decisions of non removable battery and in some cases, non expandable memory. No wonder people will buy samsung more cuz it offers more choices when it comes to a premium smartphone.
I think the millions of people buying Samsung devices now are proof enough that quite a few people could give a flyin hoot about "plastic build" or "premium build"
Now take away my removable battery and SD card and thems fighting words.
That was my first thought when I saw the article. I assume they use it while they are not running.
I don't have a problem with the materials. My desk phone is plastic and it doesn't bother me. In fact, practically all of the devices I use is made of plastic. My mouse, keyboard, monitor, TV remote, etc.
Software wise, I like certain aspect of both TW and Sense. I like the power controls in the notification bar on TW and I think some of the Sense widgets are better than any other I can find. I missed those widgets when I switched from an HTC to a Samsung phone.
LG piqued my interest when I saw they had a phone with a landscape slider keyboard. Then I realised the rest of the phone was crap. Has no manufacturer ever figured out how to incorporate a landscape slider keyboard on a flagship phone?
It's been a long time since the Samsung Captivate. TouchWiz is not what it used to be. My brother in law, my mother and my sister ALL have Samsung Galaxy S3's and they have ZERO complaints about the OS. It's crazy. With any other phone, they always ALWAYS called me about this issue or that issue (I used to be an IT technician before going back to school for engineering) and I would constantly have to fix stuff.
but with their S3's they're literally right as rain. It's bizarre.
I do feel like they should ditch the plastic but their phones have a great habit of being fully functional even with a cracked screen. (Are you listening LG!?!)
Explaining its love of plastic to CNET, Samsungs YH Lee, executive vice president of the mobile business, said it doesnt just take into account how a device will look when its designing it, but also how quickly and efficiently it can be manufactured.Samsung knows its going to sell millions of units, and it wants to ensure it can make them quick enough, and that its customers arent made to wait.*Perhaps customers wouldnt have to wait up to a month for a new iPhone if Apple chose to make that out of plastic but we know the Cupertino company would rather make us wait than sacrifice build quality.Lee also said that there are other pros and cons Samsung takes into account, such as removable back that allows for a replaceable battery. This is a feature thats started dying out on modern smartphones as certain manufacturers look to avoid plastic, but Samsung has been maintaining it.
And as far as Touchwiz, most people use launches anyway.
I didn't like Samsung a first either, but I like what they did with the Galaxy line. Reminds me of how Apple does with the iPhone. One flagship a year.
But still hasnt prevented Samsung from reaching #1.
Based on volume sales, really a one-horse race as is. Samsung surged to #1 by controlling the SoC and clever marketing attack on Apple. I dont think Apple expected it in just 2-3 years and might have been caught by surprise. Clearly Apple stays at a distant 2nd. And 3rd place is multiple vendors fighting for bronze.
The one former market leader Nokia faded back into the "others" section. Had they went tried Android, who knows? I agree with you. The tides could turn quickly. Nokia basically lost like 25% of its marketshare in 3 years.
Its based on marketing. Almost anyone can name a Samsung or Apple phone because they are way more heavily marketed than Moto/HTC/Sony. Thats where Apple and Samsung get their huge marketshare... not necessarily because they have the best phones
Samsung sells better than HTC, LG, Sony, etc because they can afford to put more into advertising and marketing. That's all
It makes me laugh that people actually think Samsung is blowing away the competition from a technical or usability aspect just because of the sales numbers
It makes me laugh you actually believe that BS. You must really think people are stupid. Like they can't help themselves. That they'll buy any inferior product because of marketing. If marketing is all it takes then you better go run off and tell the other Android OEMs. Don't bother wasting any money on R&D, spend it all on marketing a crappy product. Because it will sell. All you need to do is market it non stop. Bad word of mouth on a crappy product has no chance against marketing. Foolish mortal.
Let's see how HTC's new massive marketing plan with Robert Downey Jr turns out.