Internal [Bootable] RAID 0 PCIe card?

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  1. AT0MAC macrumors regular

    AT0MAC

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    I am having a hard time finding the right card for my system - I want the fastest RAID controller card supporting bootable RAID0 running of PCIe 4x or 8x.

    What should I get??

    I already have two Intel 520 series 240gb SSDs and don´t think I get quite the full potential out of them because I only software raid them.
     
  2. Tesselator macrumors 601

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    Isn't your answer HighPoint's RocketRAID?

    Bootable,
    Very fast,
    Upgrades the internal connections to SATA 3 I believe.
    SAS support,
    etc.
     
  3. AT0MAC thread starter macrumors regular

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    If you could tell me which one then?

    The only Mountain Lion compatible card I see that has SATA3 and internal ports capable of hardware assisted RAID0 is the RocketRAID 2721 ...oh no wait: "Note: Mac Pro systems do not support the RR2721's internal device port (SFF-8087)."
     
  4. 666sheep macrumors 68040

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    If it's for rig from your signature, you'd better ask on hackintosh forum.
     
  5. AT0MAC thread starter macrumors regular

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    It does not matter what machine it´s for, question is still valid - it is extraordinary hard to find a card that supports what I would like it to do.
     
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  7. mtasquared macrumors regular

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    Try the Sonnet Tempo Pro SSD card. It uses PCI e 2 x4. You can mount two SSD drives in RAID. There's a thread about it here somewhere.
     
  8. telequest macrumors regular

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    Sonnet Tempo SSD Pro

    With one of these - http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempossdpro.html - mount your two SSDs on the card. Probably the fastest way to configure your SSDs in RAID 0.

    According to Sonnet:
     
  9. mcnallym macrumors 6502a

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    There are two ways you can search on the Highpoint Website.

    1.) By System, as in Mac Pro 2010 - This doesn't mention the 2721 in it's results
    2.) By OS, as in Mountain Lion - This does mention the 2721 which then goes on to mention that the Internal 8087 connector isn't supported in a Mac Pro, however will be supported by OSX Mountain Lion.

    Your signature system is a Dual Core i3 with the mentioned SSD's in RAID0. This isn't a Mac Pro, so the fact that the 2721 internal connector isn't supported in a Mac Pro is it relevant? The internal connector would work in an OSX system, however not a Mac Pro

    That is the only Highpoint Card that meets your requirement. Highpoint used to have much better support on OSX however when the Drivers started being included on the Distribution then support for Internal Cards like the 3520 was dropped whilst the 3522 continued to be supported as if the deal meant couldn't support cards that were not really intended for genuine Apple Computers. Got burned with this myself.

    If this is for the machine in your sig, then the hackintosh community will likely have been looking at other cards that offer hardware raid internal expansion. These aren't too much use in a Mac Pro, however they are great in a Hackintosh. As such they can advise over a wider range of suitable cards.

    I would however suggest that look at the Sonnettech SSD Tempo Pro, rather then the Highpoint Cards as others have suggested, which I am just about to go and pick up from Courier.
     
  10. AT0MAC thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yea I have seen it, "problem" is though that it relies on software RAID and not a hardware chip... I would just really like it to be hardware based.
    It does though give quite a good bump specially in write speeds compared to what I have now.

    Now:

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    Link to slightly faster drive setup in RAID0 on the Sonnet:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1552592

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    Good point(s).
    My guess is that the SMBIOS from a Mac Pro 3.1 would block the 2721...
    I had hoped to take the easy route and just add a card without too much pain, have been a struggle to make this thing work...
    But maybe you are right, that is the price to pay for not dancing after Apples pipe and trying to re-invent the Mac in your own image.

    The Sonnet Tempo Pro looks really tempting, really...!
     
  11. Baunkjaer macrumors 6502

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    It´s nice card, but also a long card. It measures 34cm, so you´ll have to remove the lower fan in your FF03 case.
     
  12. sindresl macrumors newbie

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    Perhaps the the Areca ARC-1882 series of raid hba's could fit the bill? X8 PCIe, mini-SAS, Sata 6Gb and bootable in OS X.
     
  13. AT0MAC thread starter macrumors regular

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    That looks like an option, the ARC-1882i exactly fits. Wonder why I have not heard of that one before...
    Any other options?
     
  14. sindresl macrumors newbie

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    Also some of the Atto cards, eg. the ExpressSAS R644, should work if you flash it. Although, booting from a raid 0 array probably won't give you that much performance boost over a single ssd.
     
  15. DJenkins macrumors 6502

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    I'm currently using the Areca 1213-4i which is cheaper than the 18xx series and it works fine in a hack using 10.8.0

    The ATTO cards are also fantastic for mac, I've previously had a R348 although not tried it in Hackintosh.
     

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