Internally Powered GTX Titan with Full Functionality.

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  1. Tom-Create-Pro macrumors member

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    After much talk over the last few days and some unfortunate words on this forum (which we sincerely apologise for, this is not what we wanted or intended when we initially started posting). We have now finalised a new Classic Mac Pro GTX Titan GPU with full functionality, this is a result of our own tweaking and strictly our own.

    We have removed the MacVidCards EFI rom from our Titan cards (which purely gave us a boot-screen). There was confusion regarding this (we did not know our cards were using it), which we have now cleared up with our developer. This has caused bad blood with the rom's original creator which we once again apologise for. We did not intend to use his EFI without consent (hence removing it from our cards).

    We will now develop our own EFI from scratch, in the meantime for a boot screen we will use an nVidia GT120 as a secondary card. This card is intended to provide the boot screen and only that (by the way it gives full RAM from the Titan to an app that uses it anyway, you will just lose a PCIe slot for the GT120).

    Our Titan cards are completely internally powered and run faster than any we have seen before by any other developer (if anyone has got it running faster this is amazing, we just haven't seen it). This includes the double precision performance, we have only tested this in OS X 10.10 today, we will try earlier versions tomorrow.

    Again apologies for the awful comments on previous threads. Hopefully we can create some happy faces with our new work. Our guys have worked really hard to pull this off, some screenshots have been posted below, I'm sure you'll find them very impressive. This card is awesome and the fact that it is running completely off internal power at full functionality is incredible, add to this the fact that it is working in a Mac Pro that is nearly 5 years old.

    We will not be commenting on the previous thread from this point as we are not interested in getting into arguments and have made our apology. From now on we will be much more cautious when it comes to posting on MacRumors as we do not intend to be part of any further disputes. We are simply interested in supporting the Classic Mac Pro, as it is a system we love, and want to keep it current for as long as professional users need it for their workflow.

    Tom
     

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  3. revoid macrumors newbie

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    Hey dude how did you managed to get this to work? I'm planning to get a Titan for my cMP.
     
  4. ilikewhey macrumors 6502

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    do you guys have a workaround for maxwell? how do you guys handle US based customers
     
  5. MacVidCards, Nov 4, 2014
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    They have used Kepler Bios Tweaker and downed the clocks below the level the cards ship with.

    You could do it yourself in about 5 minutes in Windows. I imagine it took longer than that to find the best values, though simply starting with GTX780 numbers would be a good start.

    No miracles.

    We sell Titan cards with boot screens, they got caught selling "borrowed" ip of ours. Until they figure out how to get our trademark out of the EFI, this is what they offer. They may be licensing our tech, especially since current versions of Nvidia Drivers for Windows no longer support GT120. (9500GT in Windows)
     
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    Please post some benchmark. e.g. Unigine, Furmark, an 1 hour OCCT error check under bootcamp, power consumption of each boost line and slot, etc. to prove that's the fastest 780Ti and completely stable but still within the internal power limit. Obviously you just "finalise" the setting of this card, and no time to test it yet. How can you sell something without proper test?

    Even though there is no way to prove those screen capture is real, but at least there will be some numbers for us to "know more about your product", and decide if that's a safe approach to use the 780Ti with only the internal power.

    Also, if you guys prefer to start from scratch now. Please do that on the 980 but not 780, focus on the future but not the past.

    IMO, the only way to prove that you are not a liar is to release a "full function 980 with boot screen" before MVC. And please don't use this GT120 as a solution, which is just BS for many of us. IMO, the hardest part is in fact how to get the EFI boot screen (which MVC does) on these cards, but not to make the card run in a cMP with GT120.

    And I hope that you are not playing around with the wording. e.g. (internal extra PSU = internal power). You may say that's your commercial secret, so can't tell us how to achieve that. But please don't be silly. Unless you don't sell your machine (which obviously not your intention), quite a few of us can "reverse engineering" to figure it out anyway, or at least we know how to "copy". Just like MVC sell his cards, and then your developer can mass produce yours "custom 780 Ti" by simply copy and paste, and not even change the trademark. I just try that myself, I can easily "create my own full function chipset and EFI ROM from scratch" in less than 5min. I am sure your smart developer can do this as well.

    Screen Shot 2014-11-03 at 04.06.09.jpg

    However, it seems your developer is extremely lazy. Not even perform a simple system profile check and that "5 min work". You should seriously think about to change your developer. In reality, you are the supplier to the customer, not him. You can't just say that you don't know where your product coming from (or how it manufacture) and then get rid of all responsibilities.

    The logic is simple. We can examine the logic by pushing it to the extreme. If your developer give you the GT120 and said that can perform better than 780Ti, what will you do? Sell it to us, tell us that's faster than the Ti, and than you have zero responsibility? Obviously you can't. Then why you can sell the 780Ti which is actually the MVC version, and said that's your own version, but then just the developer's responsibility? IMO, that's just the matter of degree how you lie, and how unresopinsible you are. The truth is, you "sell false advertised product and lie", which is the key why you are wrong. If you want to run this business, please be responsible, don't blame your developer, it's your own responsibility to make sure that you are selling the correct product, not the developer.
     
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    Wanna know this secret?

    Here it is: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2305271
     
  8. Ballan.Singh macrumors newbie

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    Do you ever say anything positive 666Sheep ???

    I have been ready your posts on MacRumors - all you can do is flame - you never contribute anything.

    Grow up.
     
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    From the guy with 1 post which is a flame.

    So you literally are 100% "flaming"

    Sheep has posted many useful things.
     
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  11. 666sheep macrumors 68040

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    Tom, I'm sure you know what you can suck... So suck it and keep calm, as BDM said. Scumpymacs alias CreatePoo can do it as well.
     
  12. Mr. Zarniwoop macrumors demi-god

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    I dunno, seems like 666sheep has been exceptionally helpful with graphics card stuff and the Yosemite boot.efi thread that recently resulted in Pike's boot loader.

    At least on the Mac Pro board he's one of my favorite posters! I learn something useful more often than not when I see his avatar.

    Never seen you contribute before though... until this criticism of someone never contributing?
     
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    Why can't we have that Down Vote button back? :rolleyes:
     
  14. Gav Mack macrumors 68020

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    As we say in London with rhyming slang - you're having a giraffe. You truly have no idea why he did it either,

    The same giraffe when you tried to flame me by teaching a grandmother to suck eggs about washers or not on a 4,1 CPU board. When you've broken a board and had to pay for it out of your own pocket it's called learning by trial and error.

    The only contributions you seem to have made tonight here have a total net worth of 'sweet fanny Adams' sunshine cos in this place you're an infant debating with grown ups.

    Don't worry, when I was young I had no sense. With Mac pro gear I reckon I spent 3-4 years lurking learning off these grown ups before I grew up enough and one of them was the satanic lamb you've just flamed.

    Priceless :D
     
  15. theSeb macrumors 604

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    In another thread, MVC mentined that he received an email from Phil.

    The "Phil" would be Philip Goldsmith from Ipswitch, born in 1969.

    Mr Goldsmith is a director of 4 companies:
    Create Pro Limited
    Macrefresh Ltd
    Scrumpymacs Ltd
    Justworks Finance Ltd

    http://companycheck.co.uk/director/910960033


    create.pro/legal

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    The news:

    http://www.suffolk.police.uk/newsandevents/newsstories/2014/october/ipswichhospitalcomputerthef.aspx

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    MVC, I don't think I need to state the obvious.
     
  16. Gav Mack macrumors 68020

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    I appreciate that info too Seb - thanks for doing a spot of invaluable research.
     
  17. theSeb macrumors 604

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    Thank "Lucas Godfrey" over in the purchasing section for steering me onto the trail.

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1821776

    All I did was double check the info and do the company director checks to make sure that it is indeed the same person and that the companies are actually connected, because the thread linked above was a bit too "hearsay" for my liking.
     
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    If ever you or Lucas are in the South London area I owe you both a beer. Cheers the pair of you :D
     
  19. EdDuPlessis macrumors 6502

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    Sounds like you guys are having an internet tiff over nothing. Only one count of handling a stolen computer? It's impossible to run a secondhand/refurb business without people trying to sell you stolen goods. Anyone who has ever used ebay or webuy.com / cex.com knows this.

    Macvideocards and Scrumpy are often recommended by Barefeats for providing a great service for new and experienced Mac owners.
     
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    Personally I prefer cider, just not the scrumpy kind anymore.. And I'm in west London usually but if I ever find myself down my purley based business more often I'll treat you to a beer gav.
     
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    And then after drinks will you "Google" Gav's history and publicly slander him for simple mistakes he made in life? /sarc
     
  22. Lucas Godfrey macrumors 6502

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    Hey Ed, do you work for scrumpy by any chance, your sure are doing a lot of talking for a random user unrelated to scrumpy?
     
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    Along with that hateful closed thread you posted that's the 10th conspiracy theory you posted here today. Haven't you got some chemtrails to go take pictures of? ;)

    Yours,

    Random User who isn't knowledgable enough about hardware to work at Scrumpy
     
  24. Lucas Godfrey, Nov 23, 2014
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    Conspiracy theories don't lead to arrests and court dates.
    Begone from here shill!

    Chemtrails? Next you'll mention the illuminati and the freemasons.
     
  25. EdDuPlessis macrumors 6502

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    Go make a conspiracy youtube video about your theories on the #shillarmy complete with moody music. We will just "rapidly cycle" between names to hide our Illuminati agenda.

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