Internet Archive Wayback Machine banner missing from captures of redesigned MacRumors Forums

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  1. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    Log out of your account at MacRumors and you'll find out why this is.

    First this menu was probably visible to everybody, no only to logged in users. the Web.Archive bot probably doesn't have an account on MacRumors. ;)
     
  3. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    The problem is unrelated to logged in appearances.

    The Internet Archive Wayback Machine banner is missing; follow the first of the links in the opening post, you'll see that banner.

    In the screenshot below, the archive nature of one of the windows can be told only by reading and interpreting the full URL. Safari in Yosemite defaults to not showing that detail, and even when the detail is shown: we can't assume that viewers will interpret that detail.

    The customary banner is appropriate.

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  4. OllyW Moderator

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    It doesn't seem to be a problem caused by MacRumors so shouldn't you be contacting the admins on that site?
     
  5. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    I have never seen the problem with any other site, only MacRumors Forums.

    If I contact Internet Archive, they might request technical information about the services the combine for MacRumors Forums; I'll be unable to answer in any detail.
     
  6. chrfr macrumors 603

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    Both of your links show the banner as normal with Safari.
     
  7. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    Can you provide shots? Thanks. I have no access to a Mac at the moment, but the problem is observable with Firefox and with WebKit-based GNOME Web.
     
  8. chrfr macrumors 603

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    No screen shots, but the links work in Firefox 42.0 on this Mac as well.
     
  9. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    Chromium 46.0.2490.80 (64-bit), with the problem observable:

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  10. chrfr macrumors 603

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    In any case, the problem you're seeing is either related to your network, or to archive.org, not Macrumors. Macrumors has no control over how the Internet Archive's site renders pages.
     
  11. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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  12. an-other macrumors regular

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    Sorry to geek out, but shouldn't it be WABAC?
     
  13. maflynn Moderator

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    Its not a MacRumor's issue, you're asking about a site that is pulling content from MR. Perhaps their methods are not compatible with how MR is running. Personally, I don't see this to be a major issue.
     
  14. grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    I didn't receive a reply to the tweet, but today I realised that the problem no longer occurs.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20151115...tures-of-redesigned-macrumors-forums.1937989/ for example, appears as it should – with the Wayback Machine banner at the head of the page. Hundreds of thousands more at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/* and I guess that banner will be displayed for any page that has been captured.
     
  15. decafjava macrumors 68000

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    Dude, the second link froze my Firefox - what's the point of posting a few hundred thousand urls??
     
  16. grahamperrin, Jun 5, 2016
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    grahamperrin thread starter macrumors 601

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    Sorry about that. It's the nature of some areas of the Wayback Machine, you could make an improvement suggestion. Pagination, maybe.

    Postscript

    Now I see the problem in Firefox. Accept the invitation to stop a script, then Command-W should close the window. The app might not respond immediately, but (at least for me) it does respond.
     

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