Internet Archive Wayback Machine banner missing from captures of redesigned MacRumors Forums

[grahamperrin]

It appears that since the 2015-05-31 redesign, captures are without the customary banner.

Before: http://web.archive.org/web/20150214164525/https://forums.macrumors.com/

After: http://web.archive.org/web/20150608015616/https://forums.macrumors.com/

Unless I'm missing something, http://archive.org/about/faqs.php#The_Wayback_Machine offers no explanation for nonappearance of the banner. Someone at MacRumors might like to contact the Internet Archive.

 

[2457244]

Log out of your account at MacRumors and you'll find out why this is.

First this menu was probably visible to everybody, no only to logged in users. the Web.Archive bot probably doesn't have an account on MacRumors.

 

[grahamperrin]

Log out …

The problem is unrelated to logged in appearances.

The Internet Archive Wayback Machine banner is missing; follow the first of the links in the opening post, you'll see that banner.

In the screenshot below, the archive nature of one of the windows can be told only by reading and interpreting the full URL. Safari in Yosemite defaults to not showing that detail, and even when the detail is shown: we can't assume that viewers will interpret that detail.

The customary banner is appropriate.

 

[OllyW]

It doesn't seem to be a problem caused by MacRumors so shouldn't you be contacting the admins on that site?

 

[grahamperrin]

I have never seen the problem with any other site, only MacRumors Forums.

If I contact Internet Archive, they might request technical information about the services the combine for MacRumors Forums; I'll be unable to answer in any detail.

 

[chrfr]

I have never seen the problem with any other site, only MacRumors Forums.

Both of your links show the banner as normal with Safari.

 

[grahamperrin]

banner as normal with Safari.

Can you provide shots? Thanks. I have no access to a Mac at the moment, but the problem is observable with Firefox and with WebKit-based GNOME Web.

 

[chrfr]

Can you provide shots? Thanks. I have no access to a Mac at the moment, but the problem is observable with Firefox and with WebKit-based GNOME Web.

No screen shots, but the links work in Firefox 42.0 on this Mac as well.

 

[grahamperrin]

Chromium 46.0.2490.80 (64-bit), with the problem observable:

 

[chrfr]

Chromium 46.0.2490.80 (64-bit), with the problem observable:

View attachment 600096

In any case, the problem you're seeing is either related to your network, or to archive.org, not Macrumors. Macrumors has no control over how the Internet Archive's site renders pages.

 

[grahamperrin]

I doubt that there's a problem with my network; here's a Chromium view of the banner (taken seconds before the shot in my earlier post):

I addressed a question to Internet Archive: https://twitter.com/grahamperrin/status/665954260467740673

 

[an-other]

Sorry to geek out, but shouldn't it be WABAC?

 

[maflynn]

Its not a MacRumor's issue, you're asking about a site that is pulling content from MR. Perhaps their methods are not compatible with how MR is running. Personally, I don't see this to be a major issue.

 

[grahamperrin]

contacting the admins on that site

I didn't receive a reply to the tweet, but today I realised that the problem no longer occurs.

http://web.archive.org/web/20151115...tures-of-redesigned-macrumors-forums.1937989/ for example, appears as it should – with the Wayback Machine banner at the head of the page. Hundreds of thousands more at http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/* and I guess that banner will be displayed for any page that has been captured.

 

[decafjava]

I didn't receive a reply to the tweet, but today I realised that the problem no longer occurs.

http://web.archive.org/web/20151115...tures-of-redesigned-macrumors-forums.1937989/ for example, appears as it should – with the Wayback Machine banner at the head of the page. Hundreds of thousands more at http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/* and I guess that banner will be displayed for any page that has been captured.

Dude, the second link froze my Firefox - what's the point of posting a few hundred thousand urls??

 

[grahamperrin]

froze my Firefox

Sorry about that. It's the nature of some areas of the Wayback Machine, you could make an improvement suggestion. Pagination, maybe.

Postscript

Now I see the problem in Firefox. Accept the invitation to stop a script, then Command-W should close the window. The app might not respond immediately, but (at least for me) it does respond.