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Introducing Aquafox: A New Hope (TenFourFox fork) | Updated Jul 1, 2025

my only critique of Aquafox so far is just the icon
it looks AI generated (look at the water)

and that ai generated corporate aesthetic does not fit tiger or leopard
 
featherwhisker said:
my only critique of Aquafox so far is just the icon
it looks AI generated (look at the water)

and that ai generated corporate aesthetic does not fit tiger or leopard
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The devkits for tiger and leopard are free….you could make your own browser…but I would stick to learning how to install Linux first. 😆
 
Me too, I really don't see what's wrong with this :

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Ok Ok sorry... returning to learning Linux and attempting to install Chimera Linux in multi-boot from an usb drive... 🕵️‍♀️
 
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Joke aside, I find it great that you guys are continuing the efforts to produce a modern web browser for old machines, rest assured that your work is closely followed by a good amount of folks like me for whom web browsing is central to their motivation to revive their old PowerPC based laptop/desktop, even though we don't post here on a regular basis.

So please keep up the good work, and thanxx a lot for the dedication and effort ! 💪
 
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Hey everyone! 😊 I haven't posted in nearly a month, so I thought I'd share a little update.
First, I would like to thank everyone for their support, and a special thanks to @skinniezinho! 🙏 Seeing how many people have downloaded Aquafox truly brings a smile to my face! Over 3,000 total downloads is much more than I ever expected! 🎉

I'm also happy to announce that version 2.2 is basically ready and will be released in early April. 📅 This will be a security update to ESR 128.9. As for further development, I've been quite busy, so I haven't had the chance to look into Cameron's improved Reader Mode 📚, but rest assured it will definitely make its way into Aquafox! You might have noticed quite a few emojis in this message; that's because they will be properly displayed in the next major version, huge thanks to @Jazzzny!

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See you all again real soon!
 
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Aquafox 2.2​

Happy April Fools' Day! I'm releasing version 2.2 a couple of days earlier than initially planned—and that's not a joke!

This is the second security update for Aquafox 2. It does exactly what it says on the tin: it updates the security to the latest version of 128 ESR.

Thank you all for your continued support, and a special thank you to Andre Faria and MickeyD for their donations! I’ll see you all again at the next release!

Direct downloads here:
https://github.com/BlackBirdLC/Aquafox/releases/expanded_assets/v2.2
 
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thewireless said:
I might see if it builds on my MacBook in the future, but it's not a priority. Intel Macs are capable of running Snow Leopard, and with that, they have access to newer browsers like InterWeb. You can find them here: (link).
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I know about Interweb, writing from it as we speak, but i'd like to test Aquafox's speed in comparison to Interweb's regularly poor speed.
 
GalacticStag said:
I know about Interweb, writing from it as we speak, but i'd like to test Aquafox's speed in comparison to Interweb's regularly poor speed.
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I've built InterWebPPC on Snow Leopard x86 back when it was being slightly maintained. The code is available and will probably work with the same TFF script we all used to use to build IW.
 
GalacticStag said:
I know about Interweb, writing from it as we speak, but i'd like to test Aquafox's speed in comparison to Interweb's regularly poor speed.
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As @Project Alice mentioned, you could attempt building Aquafox on Intel using the intel-Yonah mozconfig file, which I haven't yet updated to align with the rest. You would need to change a few lines to disable some things.

Hughmac said:
You can always give it a whirl in Snow Leo using Rosetta ;)
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That wink says it all, doesn't it?
 
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Hughmac said:
You can always give it a whirl in Snow Leo using Rosetta ;)

Cheers :)

Hugh
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i have tried Rosetta, for the G5, G4 7450 and G4 7400 versions, though none have launched so far. furthest i've gotten is the ominous white square that also pops up from time to time in InterWeb
 
GalacticStag said:
I know about Interweb, writing from it as we speak, but i'd like to test Aquafox's speed in comparison to Interweb's regularly poor speed.
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TenFourFox's codebase runs unusually bad when natively compiled for Intel. Last time I tried, it ran at around 70% of the speed of IW55, and it certainly isn't helped by TFF's obsolete Firefox 45 base.
 
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Jazzzny said:
TenFourFox's codebase runs unusually bad when natively compiled for Intel. Last time I tried, it ran at around 70% of the speed of IW55, and it certainly isn't helped by TFF's obsolete Firefox 45 base.
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Oh.. i see. hope the next IW55 update is going smoothly! I still love IW, i just find it laggy on start-up and on some websites, so what i was trying to do here was test the speed of Aquafox, just in case, lol. thanks for the heads-up!!!!
 
The reality these days is websites have become simply too bloated. Almost every single darn site pointlessly bundles megabytes of javascript libraries, utilizing functionality that these browser engines were never designed to work with. In the case of TFF, it has not received any major Javascript functionality improvements in around 8 years, which means that many websites just flat out refuse to work. Engines such as UXP (Pale Moon, based on Firefox 52) and Moebius (IW55, based on Firefox 55) have constantly received Javascript additions over the years, so most websites do run, but as more complexity through Javascript is added, they're bogged down more and more. Mozilla realized that this would happen in around 2016, and Firefox Quantum was the result of them massively rewriting portions of their codebase to overcome the lacklustre performance and predicted gradual worsening of the Pre-Quantum engine.
 
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Jazzzny said:
The reality these days is websites have become simply too bloated. Almost every single darn site pointlessly bundles megabytes of javascript libraries, utilizing functionality that these browser engines were never designed to work with. In the case of TFF, it has not received any major Javascript functionality improvements in around 8 years, which means that many websites just flat out refuse to work. Engines such as UXP (Pale Moon, based on Firefox 52) and Moebius (IW55, based on Firefox 55) have constantly received Javascript additions over the years, so most websites do run, but as more complexity through Javascript is added, they're bogged down more and more. Mozilla realized that this would happen in around 2016, and Firefox Quantum was the result of them massively rewriting portions of their codebase to overcome the gradual worsening of performance they predicted would happen to the Pre-Quantum engine.
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isn't there a way to port Quantum to older OS X versions? MyPal uses Quantum, and works on older Windows versions! i really do wonder if that's possible.
 
Firefox Dynasty (https://github.com/i3roly/firefox-dynasty) is a Quantum backport to 10.7+, and it really flies compared to any of the other older Firefox-derived browsers (after 9 years, its pretty obvious that Mozilla was right about the need for Quantum). However, Quantum is probably never going to run on PowerPC or 10.5/older because of fundamental incompatibilities such as Rust.
 
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Firefox Dynasty (https://github.com/i3roly/firefox-dynasty) is a Quantum backport to 10.7+, and it really flies compared to any of the other older Firefox-derived browsers (after 9 years, its pretty obvious that Mozilla was right about the need for Quantum). However, Quantum is probably never going to run on PowerPC or 10.5/older because of fundamental incompatibilities such as Rust.
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i see! Since i'm on 10.6 for the foreseeable future (no other version has the stability it gives me, i swear, an amazing OS), could a 10.6+ Quantum port be feasible? Hell, even making a wine bottle of MyPal 68 comes to mind, could that even be done?
 
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