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Intuit Releases Lion-Compatible Quicken 2007 for Mac
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Thanks for the correction. I knew that Quicken did not work, and since TurboTax seems like a much more difficult challenge, I guess I assumed it didn't work. My mistake.
No, I read that, but I don't think that just because Intuit was obstinate means that Apple should be hamstrung with how it develops its operating system. I'm guessing there isn't much demand in general for personal finance software as we would like, particularly on the Mac side, perhaps because more and more people are tracking things online.
Even on Windows, it is Quicken and that's about it. Microsoft exited the market 2 years ago (I actually preferred MS Money and switched to Quicken for Windows only after Money was discontinued). I believe for the past few years, close to half of Macs have been sold to buyers new to the Mac, so there probably aren't many Quicken 2007 users out there. Plus, Intuit did commit fairly early on to producing a "new" Quicken, and if Quicken Essentials had decent tracking of investments, I'm guessing few people would find Quicken 2007 necessary.
The installer doesn't run because of Apple programming it to only except versions on Windows up to a certain version number. The Vista 64-bit installer is hacked by changing a single value in the installer.
There was no real operating system checking being done by the installer here. It's nothing more than an arbitrary digit listed for "don't run if version number is above this".
Intuit wasn't obstinate, they just didn't care. As you say (and as I have been saying) the market just isn't large enough for them to care. In the past, Apple has understood the problems inherent to the Mac's minority platform status, and they went out of their way to make technology transitions as non-distruptive as possible for the user. The new wrinkle is that Apple didn't care this time around, either, and the user got caught in the middle. This is the main point I have been making from the start.
Like it or not, Mac is now only about 25% of Apple's revenues. It is still an important part of Apple, but not the most important part. That is now iOS (iPhone and iPad in particular - iPod is just a cash cow). Most of Mac's growth over the past few years has been driven by brand new users from the "halo effect" of iOS' success. That means that most of those users don't have old software. I'm not saying that it isn't bad news for longtime Mac users. However, it helps to understand why Apple is doing what they are doing.
I understand it, I just happen to think it's a mistake. Complaints from users, especially when they are accurate and justified, have a way of polluting the goodwill pool.
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As an added bonus, if you buy in the next 24 hrs...........we'll throw in Brittany Spears new cd.
Link to purchase Quicken 2007 for Mac Lion
I had to write to Intuit customer service to get a link to purchase the new Quicken 2007 for Mac OSX Lion. The price is right $14.99 for download or CD.
From Intuit:
I would like to inform you that Quicken for Mac 2007 Lion compatible is available in the market and you can purchase it from the following link.
You can make the purchase at the link below.
http://quicken.intuit.com/personal-finance-software/quicken-2007-osx-lion.jsp
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Intuit doesn't mention the possibility of upgrading from Quicken 2007 on Windows to the new Mac version, only upgrading from older PPC Mac versions. We'll try it out and let you know how it goes ...
I had to write to Intuit customer service to get a link to purchase the new Quicken 2007 for Mac OSX Lion. The price is right $14.99 for download or CD.
From Intuit:
I would like to inform you that Quicken for Mac 2007 Lion compatible is available in the market and you can purchase it from the following link.
You can make the purchase at the link below.
http://quicken.intuit.com/personal-finance-software/quicken-2007-osx-lion.jsp
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Intuit doesn't mention the possibility of upgrading from Quicken 2007 on Windows to the new Mac version, only upgrading from older PPC Mac versions. We'll try it out and let you know how it goes ...
experience with update quicken 2007 for lion
When you downloaded the new update did you update to Lion first or just download the new quicken and try it?
how is it working? Is it as solid as the 2007 original or does it suffer from the quirkiness of most updates to existing software?
When you downloaded the new update did you update to Lion first or just download the new quicken and try it?
how is it working? Is it as solid as the 2007 original or does it suffer from the quirkiness of most updates to existing software?
Rosetta in Lion via Parallels
I like you, am still using Quicken 2002, primarily for its stock transactions ability. However, my iMac G5 died last Fall and I purchased a new mid-2011 Mac Mini which operates only with Lion.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention: after much research on the web, I now have Parallels 7 running Snow Leopard (and Rosetta) and have access to Quicken 2002 on a 24/7/365 basis.
Here is my detailed discussion:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16247806#16247806
The newly released Quicken for Lion 2007 will not work with data before Quicken 2005...
I like you, am still using Quicken 2002, primarily for its stock transactions ability. However, my iMac G5 died last Fall and I purchased a new mid-2011 Mac Mini which operates only with Lion.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention: after much research on the web, I now have Parallels 7 running Snow Leopard (and Rosetta) and have access to Quicken 2002 on a 24/7/365 basis.
Here is my detailed discussion:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16247806#16247806
The newly released Quicken for Lion 2007 will not work with data before Quicken 2005...
I've looked at all the other financial software alternatives to Quicken and all are partially lacking in what I need. I've been using Quicken since it was first available for a Mac computer (late 80s or early 90s?). I use it for bank records, investment records, and different business accounts. I write checks on it, print all sorts of business reports (Cash Flow, Income Statements, etc.) and I updated through Quicken 2006. I have access to ALL my Quicken records since day one.
I've been waiting to upgrade to Lion (currently on 10.6.8) because I was so dependent on Quicken. When I received notice, I got the LC-2007 version (16.1.0) and installed in on my iMac and MacBook Pro. There was no problem converting all the old Quicken data and everything seemed ok. But, a number of bugs soon appeared, most of which they are aware of. The "Insecure Update Error" message wasn't too bad for my wife to ignore when she signed on and used her Quicken account, and the failure to use quick fill information on the check printing wasn't too bad, but the messing up of the history and downloading quotes to my investment portfolio was a bit too much.
I've sent information on all bugs discovered to Intuit and got replies from them saying they would let me know when fixes are available. I decided to trash all the "new 2007" versions of my Quicken files and put Quicken 2006 back on both computers. Fortunately, I only had a few days worth of data to add to my previous backed up 2006 files. I'm keeping it this way until I hear the bugs are worked out. My guess is there are a bunch more bugs they haven't discovered yet. I don't care to Beta test any software, but I do need this figured out BEFORE I have to convert from MobileMe to iCloud and change to Lion (June 30th).
At this point I'd be thrilled to have a Lion compatible version of Quicken 2006 or 2007 that worked as well as either program. Hopefully, they will get this figured out and not completely desert Mac users. Quicken is still the best program I can find that fits MY needs.
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We all have to find an alternative eventually. Now that most Quicken users have the impetus to do so, I am watching their results being posted.
In the meantime, why put up with a band-aid that causes more bleeding (Quicken 2007 for Lion) with all of its bugs. Do what I do in the last message before yours: install Parallels 7 in Lion and virtualize Snow Leopard and run your existing Quicken and its data files unaltered.
Then we have time to find the best alternative or Wait for Godot (Intuit) to make a decent product for the Mac.
That is a possibility, but before I install Parallels on both computers making the program a little more trouble to use, I'll continue just using Snow Leopard. I use some features on MobileMe that will disappear end of June, so I'm not in any hurry to change to Lion. Intuit has 3 months to work the bugs out and I'm betting they will. I'll re-evaluate options in a couple of months.
I just saw another rumor that Apple is planning an update to Snow Leopard that will allow it to work with iCloud. That would allow me to continue past June without updating to Lion.
Well, of course, if you do not need iCloud, and do not need to upgrade away from Snow Leopard, that is the perfect answer for now. I just upgraded my MacBook Pro to Lion in anticipation of making the move to iCloud.
As to rumors about a 10.6.9 version of Snow Leopard that will work with iCloud: It would be the holy grail that many users have vocally been posting for. I believe that would be the first time that Apple has worked "backward" to give a previous version of their OS some functionality offered by the next version since they went and added "TrueType" capability to OS 6.08 back in 1991, after that capability was released in OS 7.
As to rumors about a 10.6.9 version of Snow Leopard that will work with iCloud: It would be the holy grail that many users have vocally been posting for. I believe that would be the first time that Apple has worked "backward" to give a previous version of their OS some functionality offered by the next version since they went and added "TrueType" capability to OS 6.08 back in 1991, after that capability was released in OS 7.
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Thanks, Intuit!
Dear Intuit,
Thanks for the opportunity to buy software that was lousy 5 years ago. Very funny. Seriously, all your Mac customers have gone elsewhere a long time ago. Thanks anyway.
Love,
The World.
Dear Intuit,
Thanks for the opportunity to buy software that was lousy 5 years ago. Very funny. Seriously, all your Mac customers have gone elsewhere a long time ago. Thanks anyway.
Love,
The World.
Well: Not all of us! Seriously, I would love to hear what Quicken Alums are using today and how their experience compares to Quicken.
Well, 3 months have passed since my last post. Today I moved my MobileMe email addresses to iCloud, but I still have not upgraded to Lion. When I tried Quicken 2007LC (when first released), I had numerous problems. The 16.1.1 update months ago corrected a few issues, but 2007LC was still too buggy. I use the investment and report features extensively in addition to 9 bank accounts.
After trying 16.1.1, I removed it, put back my Quicken for Mac 2006 and replaced all my new 2007LC files with my backed up originals. I had hoped the bugs would be worked out by now so I could upgrade to Lion. Does anyone know if there has been a later update than 16.1.1 yet?
I hate losing all the sync capabilities I've had with MobileMe, but risking problems with Quicken would be a lot worse. It's hard to believe Intuit cares so little about Mac now. I really wish Apple would create their own iFinance (or whatever - iBank and iMoney are taken) program. They have their own software for everything else people use regularly. They even are about to have their own map/GPS program to eliminate relying on Google. How much trouble would an Apple version of Quicken be? Almost everyone that uses a computer keeps some financial records on it, even if nothing but checkbook accounts. Obviously, it would need to be able to import Quicken past files.
After trying 16.1.1, I removed it, put back my Quicken for Mac 2006 and replaced all my new 2007LC files with my backed up originals. I had hoped the bugs would be worked out by now so I could upgrade to Lion. Does anyone know if there has been a later update than 16.1.1 yet?
I hate losing all the sync capabilities I've had with MobileMe, but risking problems with Quicken would be a lot worse. It's hard to believe Intuit cares so little about Mac now. I really wish Apple would create their own iFinance (or whatever - iBank and iMoney are taken) program. They have their own software for everything else people use regularly. They even are about to have their own map/GPS program to eliminate relying on Google. How much trouble would an Apple version of Quicken be? Almost everyone that uses a computer keeps some financial records on it, even if nothing but checkbook accounts. Obviously, it would need to be able to import Quicken past files.
I have been successfully using Quicken 2007 for Lion (v16.1.1 build 20 762 400 which still lists as the current version) for a few months now and I use it almost daily. However, I no longer use it for stock transactions: strictly bank accounts, credit cards (which I still download and then import QIF files) and the like.
However if for your purposes you need to revert to a PowerPC version of Quicken, I am still very successfully running Quicken Deluxe 2002 using Snow Leopard (with Rosetta) installed into Parallels 7 in Lion when I need to access data files for earlier years.
Full Snow Leopard installation instructions
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However if for your purposes you need to revert to a PowerPC version of Quicken, I am still very successfully running Quicken Deluxe 2002 using Snow Leopard (with Rosetta) installed into Parallels 7 in Lion when I need to access data files for earlier years.
Full Snow Leopard installation instructions
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has anyone had problems with using the "transfer money on line" function in quicken 2007 for lion. i get duplicate transfers propagating my outbox and cannot delete them which means that if i try to send anything they all go unless i uncheck them. i contacted quicken and then said they are trying to fix the problem. i asked them when it was first reported and they said April 10th of this year. so there must be others out there that are having this problem. i am interested in a work around if anyone has one. otherwise i will have to transfer money the old fashioned way.
Quicken running under Windows in Parallels convergence mode is brilliant for me. Been using Quicken for 15 years. Only software option I can still find that does investments.
Can anyone confirm if Quicken 2007 for Mac supports foreign currencies? I'm getting conflicting information searching online and I don't want to pay $15 do find out that it doesn't have this functionality.
Also, if it does support foreign currencies, does it have the idea of historical exchange rates? For example, can I make a chart of the balance over time of a Japanese Yen account in US Dollars using historical exchange rates?
Cheers,
Ben
Also, if it does support foreign currencies, does it have the idea of historical exchange rates? For example, can I make a chart of the balance over time of a Japanese Yen account in US Dollars using historical exchange rates?
Cheers,
Ben