iOS 10.1 Bug Fixes And Changes

[Mlrollin91]

I'd probably still give it a day or two (and a charge cycle or two), perhaps even with a soft reset somewhere in there.
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You likely just have the same build already that has been released as the final version.

Yeah will definitely let it rest over the next few days. Just worried because typically my 'test' does prove to be fairly accurate over the long term.

 

[smorrissey]

Blah. Already having terrible Standby Drain again. No different than 10.1B3 on my device. Phone has been plugged for 28 minutes, has 20 minutes of usage. Thats after doing a hard reset and doing an iTunes install, not OTA.

Even my Air 2 has 6 minutes of usage of 28 minutes. That never happens. My Air 2 usually has 1 minute of usage per hour of standby.

Perhaps its doing the indexing shi3$#.

 

[Mlrollin91]

Perhaps its doing the indexing shi3$#.

I do a hard reset immediately after the update which kills indexing. Also, doing an iTunes installer doesn't lead to as much indexing as OTA. I posted a second post comparing to 10.0.2 and 10.0.3. Standby drainage is over 2x worse.

 

[deano1972]

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You likely just have the same build already that has been released as the final version.

But aren't some of the guys on PB 5 saying they're getting the update come through?

I've deleted the beta profile now so if I DFU restore (to try and fix a slightly excessive standby drain) will I get offered the general release of 10.1?

 

[Mlrollin91]

But aren't some of the guys on PB 5 saying they're getting the update come through?

I've deleted the beta profile now so if I DFU restore (to try and fix a slightly excessive standby drain) will I get offered the general release of 10.1?

Yes if you go into Recovery, you will get 10.1 Final Release.

 

[chrfr]

Am I going to get my barometer back in 10.1 ?

The barometer works again on my iPad Pro with 10.1.

 

[deano1972]

Yes if you go into Recovery, you will get 10.1 Final Release.

Cheers
I've been waiting for the release of 10.1 to try a complete fresh install to try and fix this 2% per hour standby drain that won't go away no matter how hard I try on ANY version since 10.0.2

 

[smorrissey]

I do a hard reset immediately after the update which kills indexing. Also, doing an iTunes installer doesn't lead to as much indexing as OTA. I posted a second post comparing to 10.0.2 and 10.0.3. Standby drainage is over 2x worse.

😕 Guess i'll stick to 9.3.5 forever....

 

[cale508]

what about app switcher animation bug on 7 plus ??

Still there, at least for me.

 

[widget7]

Probably an updated version of 14B72 for devices other than the iPhone 7.
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This difference is probably irrelevant.

Sure, unless it's a 0 that got changed to a 1 someplace to prevent a crash 🙂

 

[Suckfest 9001]

I do a hard reset immediately after the update which kills indexing. Also, doing an iTunes installer doesn't lead to as much indexing as OTA. I posted a second post comparing to 10.0.2 and 10.0.3. Standby drainage is over 2x worse.

No it doesn't kill indexing, it just interrupts it. Indexing resumes on next startup.

That being said, you really need to let the phone do its tasks and not keep doing hard resets. Hard resetting increases the chance of data corruption.

 

[Mlrollin91]

😕 Guess i'll stick to 9.3.5 forever....

10.0.2/10.0.3 where so much better on battery life than 9.3.5.
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No it doesn't kill indexing, it just interrupts it. Indexing resumes on next startup.

That being said, you really need to let the phone do its tasks and not keep doing hard resets. Hard resetting increases the chance of data corruption.

I've been doing a hard reset after an update for the last 6 years. Never had an issue.

 

[smorrissey]

10.0.2/10.0.3 where so much better on battery life than 9.3.5.

Not for moi...

 

[sbailey4]

No it doesn't kill indexing, it just interrupts it. Indexing resumes on next startup.

That being said, you really need to let the phone do its tasks and not keep doing hard resets. Hard resetting increases the chance of data corruption.

Thats what I was thinking. Its doing what it needs to do not just randomly running stuff. Also I have read several places that never hard reset unless the soft reset doesn't work (as in the device is hard locked) Equivalent to pulling the power plug on computer verses shutdown. There is no reason to as turn off slider does the exact same thing. As you stated if something is going on, which there is hence why the turn off slider takes a min or so to finish closing down, then you could cause some corruption pulling the rug out suddenly. Am I am certain if it were "indexing" or doing something it needs to do then its gonna resume when it comes back on.

PS where I read this was not some dude in a forum opinion but a developer or engineer most likely in the know. (its been a while so dont ask to point to the link, I cant 🙂 )

 

[Dephibio]

Wow!

Made a mistake. 10.0.3 was never released for iPhone 6. I've updated from 10.0.2.

 

[sbailey4]

10.0.2/10.0.3 where so much better on battery life than 9.3.5.
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I've been doing a hard reset after an update for the last 6 years. Never had an issue.

Think about it, why would they create a slide to shut down process that appears to clean things up prior to turning off if a simple 2 button press to just kill it did the same thing? I mean there is a power switch on a PC but you really should click start>shutdown in normal operation. Just sayin

 

[tech_apple]

Still there, at least for me.

I don't understand why they didn't fix it. It exist since ios 10.0...

 

[Solver]

Am I going to get my barometer back in 10.1 ?

iOS 10.1 has it now working on my iPad Air 2

 

[Mlrollin91]

Think about it, why would they create a slide to shut down process that appears to clean things up prior to turning off if a simple 2 button press to just kill it did the same thing? I mean there is a power switch on a PC but you really should click start>shutdown in normal operation. Just sayin

Okay, here is an example. Facebook Messenger runs in the background even if you have notifications off, background refresh off and the app is closed out entirely. It requires you to open the app, hold the power button until you get the 'slide to turn off', then hold the home button until Messenger completely force quits.

Same concept applies to iOS. Things get stuck, especially after updating. I will launch Xcode and see the App Store is running at 60% CPU. That has literally nothing to do with updating the phone. Doing a hard reset completely clears this out. I don't need to open up 30 apps and force quit each manually when I can just force reset the entire device. Problem solved. It has never hurt my devices over the years, so I will continue to do it.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

10.0.2/10.0.3 where so much better on battery life than 9.3.5.
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I've been doing a hard reset after an update for the last 6 years. Never had an issue.

Well I'm telling you as a computer scientist - hard resets increase risk for data corruption, and computers in general do not like them. Anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. Take the advice or don't - it's your phone.

But do understand that your 'tests' are completely worthless because they operate on utterly inaccurate assumptions, and we will continue taking them with a grain of salt.
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Thats what I was thinking. Its doing what it needs to do not just randomly running stuff. Also I have read several places that never hard reset unless the soft reset doesn't work (as in the device is hard locked) Equivalent to pulling the power plug on computer verses shutdown. There is no reason to as turn off slider does the exact same thing. As you stated if something is going on, which there is hence why the turn off slider takes a min or so to finish closing down, then you could cause some corruption pulling the rug out suddenly. Am I am certain if it were "indexing" or doing something it needs to do then its gonna resume when it comes back on.

PS where I read this was not some dude in a forum opinion but a developer or engineer most likely in the know. (its been a while so dont ask to point to the link, I cant 🙂 )

You are utterly and completely correct!

 

[Mlrollin91]

Well I'm telling you as a computer scientist - hard resets increase risk for data corruption, and computers in general do not like them. Take the advice or don't, it's your phone.

But do understand that your 'tests' are completely worthless because they operate on utterly inaccurate assumptions, and we will continue taking them with a grain of salt.

I couldn't care less what you think. For the last 3 years, I have done this on every single update. Every single time, the first day stand by battery performance has proven to be 100% accurate long-term. I am strictly testing standby drainage. That alone is actually worth something. When you are talking about 30+ updates over 3 years and every single time it is spot on, then it obviously means something.

 

[mconk]

PB users upgrading to 10.1 release are getting 1.79GB downloads. Those upgrading from the 10.0.3 are getting 20-30 mb downloads.

Odd. iP7 here. Downloaded and installed PB5 last week, which was a whopping 1.8GB in size. Deleted beta profile, restated and still showing up to date on build 14B72c. There was a carrier update for T-Mobile to 26.1, but nothing else.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

I couldn't care less what you think.

That's a great attitude to have in a public forum.

For the last 3 years, I have done this on every single update. Every single time, the first day stand by battery performance has proven to be 100% accurate long-term.

Anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. There is nothing scientific about your testing methodology, and your habits with your personal devices indicate that you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to computers.

I am strictly testing standby drainage. That alone is actually worth something. When you are talking about 30+ updates over 3 years and every single time it is spot on, then it obviously means something.

That's really lovely, but you're not testing standby drainage because, as your phone is clearly trying to tell you (and you keep ignoring), it's spending about 20 minutes resuming the indexing that you interrupted with the worst possible way to interrupt a computer - with a hard reset.

You should certainly care more about what other people think if you want to further your education.

 

[blackberrycubed]

does a clean restore help with animation lag on ip7 ?

 

[sbailey4]

Okay, here is an example. Facebook Messenger runs in the background even if you have notifications off, background refresh off and the app is closed out entirely. It requires you to open the app, hold the power button until you get the 'slide to turn off', then hold the home button until Messenger completely force quits.

Same concept applies to iOS. Things get stuck, especially after updating. I will launch Xcode and see the App Store is running at 60% CPU. That has literally nothing to do with updating the phone. Doing a hard reset completely clears this out. I don't need to open up 30 apps and force quit each manually when I can just force reset the entire device. Problem solved. It has never hurt my devices over the years, so I will continue to do it.

But simply powering off does the same thing (using slider) Not saying close very app (although I do that then shutdown before any OTA update) But rather than the killit combo simply power down with shutdown slider. Thats what I am saying. Never did that combo you mentioned with opening the app then force closing. Not sure why one would need to as long as the multitask isnt locked up. Anyway just seems like a bad idea to ever pull the plug on stuff verses using the built in process to shut it down when its not totally hosed up, all I am saying.