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Apple released iOS 10.2 earlier this month with an all-new "TV" app, a range of new emoji, bug fixes, and other improvements, including one that was not mentioned in the changelog -- improved support for MFi hearing aids.

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After updating to iOS 10.2, Reddit user dshafik noted Find My iPhone pings now come through the iPhone's speakers, while FaceTime rings for outgoing calls through his ReSound 9-Series hearing aids.

On previous software versions, Find My iPhone would ring through the hearing aid itself, making it harder to find a lost iPhone, while FaceTime would ring on the iPhone's speakers for outgoing calls, despite the actual call being routed through the hearing aid.

The accessibility improvements are good news for those with hearing aids, and certainly show attention to detail.

Article Link: iOS 10.2 Fixes Two Issues With 'Made for iPhone' Hearing Aids
 
As someone who wore hearing aides through high school, this makes me want to go get fitted for some new ones and get them set up like these bad boys. I always hated how uncomfortable my hearing aides seemed to be and have relied on lip reading for the last 8 years since graduation but I know eventually I'd get used to them again. I really should just bite the bullet and get hearing aides again. My wife might love me again.
 
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As someone who wore hearing aides through high school, this makes me want to go get fitted for some new ones and get them set up like these bad boys.

Not being hearing impaired, I never followed this market. But those Halo devices in the article's screen shot look like a nice setup from what I was able to read about them. Looks like they are around $2,000 per ear though. :eek:

Would your health insurance maybe pay a part of that?
 
Hearing aid support is honestly very broken in iOS, having hearing aids paired seems to completely break airplay and Bluetooth streaming to speakers/headphones etc, and just always rerouts to the hearing aids regardless of changed settings.
 
Nice, I had reported that bug regarding FMiP. I've also seen improved support of Bluetooth streaming with 10.2, seems less prone to flipping back to my aids - though, I switched iPhone 5s to iPhone 7 Plus literally just a couple days after installing 10.2 so I can't say if the improvements are from 10.2 or the new phone. I have the ReSound Linx2 9-series. @Weaselboy these were north of that figure by a bit :) but yes, covered by health insurance.
 
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I looked into getting a pair of the MFi hearing aids about two years ago when they were just coming on the market. The audiologist I was going to at the time was very excited when I told her those were the ones I wanted because I would've been her first patient to get them. However, I ended up getting a pair of regular hearing aids instead. Same style as the MFi ones shown but without the MFi certification.

At the time, I concluded that I would basically be beta testing the MFi hearing aids; and, while I'm fine beta testing some stuff, I really didn't want to beta test a pair of $6,000 hearing aids. My hearing is too important for me to have to be dealing with software or hardware bugs. I'm satisfied with the choice I made because I like just putting the hearing aids on and forgetting that they're there, which is what I do everyday.

Glad to see the MFi ones are getting better. Perhaps my next pair will be those.
 
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Always respected apple stance on accessibility. Less emoji and more of this!!!
 
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Not being hearing impaired, I never followed this market. But those Halo devices in the article's screen shot look like a nice setup from what I was able to read about them. Looks like they are around $2,000 per ear though. :eek:

Would your health insurance maybe pay a part of that?
My Naida Q50 UP were about $3,000 for the pair but insurance covered the cost. I'm quite happy that Apple works hard on accessibility. Thank you, Apple!
 
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My big complaint about iOS 10 is that they changed the way Siri sounds. I have all the enflections turned on and hq installed and tempo upped but she sounds so lethargic and tired. iOS 8 Siri was much better.

Maybe someone needs to do a Siri comparison when that opening keynote speach it gave in iOS 8 and how it sounds now in iOS 10.
 
My Naida Q50 UP were about $3,000 for the pair but insurance covered the cost. I'm quite happy that Apple works hard on accessibility. Thank you, Apple!

Good to see Apple improving their support and paying attention to the details in this area.

I have Naidas too, the V UP model. I work mostly with deaf people / hearing signers at the moment so I rarely wear them, though I would use them more if I was working with non-signers.

The Nadas irritate me because they don't have an on/off switch, fiddling with the battery holders annoys me and traps my hairs, and I can't hear the volume adjustment beeps or the max volume beep. so I don't know where I am on the volume settings. It's exasperating that an advanced device made for very deaf people like me can be so user-hostile.

To be honest, the old analogue hearing aids from 15 years ago had a far better user interface paradigm with controls that were more navigable, even if their sound output was **** compared to today's hearing aids.

I shouldn't complain though, I got mine for free on the NHS (which gets them at a huge discount thanks to bulk-buy). Mine are a couple of years old which means they probably won't work with iOS and other fancy stuff, much to my disappointment.

There's a list of Apple compatible hearing aids here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201466
 
Glad to see the MFi ones are getting better. Perhaps my next pair will be those.
I definitely understand your hesitancy with the first-gen models and you probably made the right choice. I got mine not quite a year ago, the 2nd gen from Resound, and I am frankly blown away by how well they work in general, and with my iPhone. I've commented many times, even if my hearing were fine I'd want to have these just for the features. Well, if they weren't $5,500 anyway :p
 
Good to see Apple improving their support and paying attention to the details in this area.

I have Naidas too, the V UP model. I work mostly with deaf people / hearing signers at the moment so I rarely wear them, though I would use them more if I was working with non-signers.

The Nadas irritate me because they don't have an on/off switch, fiddling with the battery holders annoys me and traps my hairs, and I can't hear the volume adjustment beeps or the max volume beep. so I don't know where I am on the volume settings. It's exasperating that an advanced device made for very deaf people like me can be so user-hostile.

To be honest, the old analogue hearing aids from 15 years ago had a far better user interface paradigm with controls that were more navigable, even if their sound output was **** compared to today's hearing aids.

I shouldn't complain though, I got mine for free on the NHS (which gets them at a huge discount thanks to bulk-buy). Mine are a couple of years old which means they probably won't work with iOS and other fancy stuff, much to my disappointment.

There's a list of Apple compatible hearing aids here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201466
Wowsers! Nice list of iPhone compatible hearing aids there. I'll be sure to have that list with me when I'm fitted for new aids. Thank you, @RedTomato

Yeah, I liked my old Phonak aids, but they were huge compared to these Naidas. This is my first set of digital aids and they still don't help much aside from lip reading.
 
As someone who wore hearing aides through high school, this makes me want to go get fitted for some new ones and get them set up like these bad boys. I always hated how uncomfortable my hearing aides seemed to be and have relied on lip reading for the last 8 years since graduation but I know eventually I'd get used to them again. I really should just bite the bullet and get hearing aides again. My wife might love me again.

By all means do so!

The technology has changed greatly in the past several years.

If your old aids relied on an acoustic tubes fitted to a molded plug that fits into the outermost part of your ear, you know how rigid that tube gets over time and how uncomfortable! The new gen of behind the ear aids have a tiny electrical cable with the speaker at the end and it sits inside your ear canal in either a molded plug or a pliable plastic basket.

The newer aids benefit from improved electronics (lower power consumption, filtering, interface to smartphones, faster processing), the separation of the mic and speaker thus reducing feedback at the source), fewer external controls to fidget with or have go bad, moisture resistant nanotechnology coatings, etc.

It's possible to set different filter and volume profiles for the ambient conditions of things like a car, or wind, or restaurant, etc.

Calls can be automatically routed direct via Bluetooth into your aids. (Only thing that's missing is having a mic in the aids to allow a headset function. Hopefully Apple will licens the W chip to MFi aid makers, or make its own aid; they are essentially there now.)

Do take note of the limitations of the Bluetooth connection tech that MFi hearing is built upon. My mom's 5000$ ReSound (she is deaf in 1 ear and 30% in the good ear, so totally dependent) often drops when she gets out of range and if she is on speakerphone and it drops, it reconnects to the aid.

It would be good if her Apple Watch could act as a repeater, and when either it or the aid was in danger of dropping the Bluetooth signal, the watch would preemptively switch to wifi for communication with the phone and relay the call via Bluetooth to the aid (or some such).

My guess is these issues will disappear when all items in this constellation move to the next gen of Bluetooth LE (5 is it?).

Good luck.
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Always respected apple stance on accessibility. Less emoji and more of this!!!

They are not mutually exclusive.
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I definitely understand your hesitancy with the first-gen models and you probably made the right choice. I got mine not quite a year ago, the 2nd gen from Resound, and I am frankly blown away by how well they work in general, and with my iPhone. I've commented many times, even if my hearing were fine I'd want to have these just for the features. Well, if they weren't $5,500 anyway :p

My mom is 84 y/o and she upgraded from a 5 year old Phonak, and waited a year past when she wanted to get a new aid on my recommendation that her next aid have MFi to interface with her iPhone and Apple Watch.

There have been glitches but in general her ReSound Linx2 is louder, clearer, more flexible settings wise and for things like Live Listen.

Recently one day something glitched between her iPhone and the aid she realized how dependent she had become on this combination (the glitch was easily solved with a hard reboot.)

She is generally happy with her choice (very happy with the higher volume capability). With regard to concerns about the robustness of the overall setup, she has had few problems (biggest issue is tuning the presets with her audiologist, this has been very fiddily and while she is patient, I'm quite annoyed) and has even been an iOS beta tester since late last summer (so she could give feedback and suggestions for enhancements through the Public Beta Feedback Tool.)
 
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Check out Costco's price for iPhone compliant hearing aids. Vastly cheaper. And with the membership you can buy giant bottles of good Vodka cheap...
[doublepost=1482374740][/doublepost]I did not previously upgrade to 10.2 because all Apple talked about were those #@$%^&* emoji things and I wanted to hold off having them infesting my phone for as long as possible. Now I will get 10.2 for the usefulness of the hearing aid app.
 
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Since there are a few Macrumors deaf readers here, am popping back into this thread with a warning. Last Black Friday I treated myself to the ChromeCast and the Amazon Fire Stick, but didn't get round to playing with them till the Xmas break.

I was expecting to use the ChromeCast for most things, but sadly its subtitle support is lacking. It plays media files from my laptop (via Chrome browser) but won't pick up the subtitle files. Some other web players didn't relay subtitles to the TV either. Am disappointed, as was looking forward to playing media from laptop on TV without needing to hook it up with wires.

I was expecting the Amazon Fire Stick to only be a backup, but the apps for it are turning out to have better subtitle support than the ChromeCast. I've not yet sideloaded Plex on the Fire Stick but apparently that will play subtitle files.
 
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