iOS 10 jailbreak (when it happens)

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by max2, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. max2 macrumors 68000

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    What will be the method to upgrade my iPhone 6s Plus iOS 9.3.3 to iOS 10 when a jailbreak is released for iOS 10 ? Will I have to start fresh or over per say ? Please explain to me the exact method to go from iOS 9.3.3 to iOS 10 once iOS 10 is jailbroken if ever?
     
  2. chambone macrumors 6502a

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    -Email yourself a list of installed Cydia tweaks and sources with Appster
    -Backup, then restore to iOS 10 with iTunes
    -Jailbreak, and put your iTunes backup back on the phone, or the other way around, depending on the nature of the jailbreak
    -Install your cydia sources and tweaks, if compatible
     
  3. max2 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thank you! Now I am ready!
     
  4. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    Here is how I do it, a method that has worked well for me each time.

    When a jailbreak drops.

    1. Send myself a list of tweaks or screenshot all tweaks in Cydia.
    2. Backup device using iTunes.
    3. Turn off Find My iPhone
    4. Put device in DFU mode, upgrade and restore as new.
    5. Jailbreak.
    6. Restore device from backup.
    7. Reinstall tweaks from list or screenshot paying careful attention to those that may not be updated to the current firmware or tweaks that no longer serve a purpose.

    An example of a tweak that no longer serves a purpose would be the iOS 6 tweak Luna which allowed you to turn on DND when your device was locked. That's a stock iOS thing now. Same can be said for Gridlock. Anchor now does what Gridlock used to do.

    This process has worked fairly well for me.

    Most people will advise to set up as new and just recreate everything. You should do that, it's the correct method. But I'm just too lazy to do that and I've rarely had issues with my backups. The profile I have now is originally from my iPhone 3GS.

    Choosing how you want to set up again though is up to you.
     
  5. max2 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thank you as well! You all both were very helpful!
     
  6. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    You're welcome.

    Note that DFU Mode is not necessary, but it's an extra step I take to ensure that any previous jailbreak is completely removed before upgrading and restoring the device.
     
  7. Carlanga macrumors 604

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    I love a fresh DFU restore as NEW w/out backups, makes the phone OS fresh :) It takes me a while to set up everything, but I usually never have to worry about issues w stuff afterwards.
     
  8. 212rikanmofo macrumors 65816

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    Can't wait for Pangu to release their iOS 10 jailbreak!
     
  9. max2 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Same.
     
  10. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    The method is always the same.
    Restore your device to the latest ios and then JB.
    Do not do an OTA update and do not do an itunes update.
    You need to plug to itunes and hit restore. Not update. And do not hit erase all content and settings on your JB device. Ever.
     
  11. 212rikanmofo macrumors 65816

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    After that, can we do a restore from backup to get all our apps and settings back?

    and why do you say do not hit erase all content and settings?
     
  12. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Because an erase all messes up a jb device and you'll need to restore and redo it all again. If the jailbreakable iOS version is not signed any more you're stuck.
     
  13. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    Yes you can restore from backup. See my earlier post.

    In regards to Erase All Contents and Settings, what AJ said. It will put you in an unrecoverable bootloop.
     
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  15. Will22 macrumors 65816

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    If you go through the pages of threads here with titles like "erased all content and now stuck on Apple logo" you will see you're not alone.

    Usually newbies who have just joined or some that are just new to jailbreaking.

    I have said it before and will say it again, why the jailbreak developers don't build something into their jailbreaks that stops the tab being used I don't know. I know there's tweaks that you can use to stop the tab being used but if you know to download the tweak then you know to not use the tab.
     
  16. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    Playing devil's advocate…isn't it on the jailbreaker to educate themselves?

    It's not on the JB devs to hold our hands and create an idiot-proof, fail-safe jailbreak that protects us from ourselves. If that's what we're looking for we might as well just play in the sandbox and let Apple protect us.

    There are some people who just should not jailbreak - ever.

    If you're going to jailbreak you have to assume some responsbility for what you do with your device. Part of that includes asking questions if you don't know or before doing something. The incurious or those that aren't serious about this don't ask those questions. And they don't bother with searching for anything either.

    Just my thoughts on the matter.
     
  17. mdlooker macrumors 65816

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    I use the tweak Mikoto as it not only prevents "erase all content and settings" but it also prevents incidental software upgrades that may be set to automatic.

    Anyone that's new to jailbreaking, a tweak as this is highly recommendable.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 11, 2016 ---
    While I definitely agree with you, I think there should be a "top 10-15 tweaks to prevent loss of JB" list out there in plain sight for the new jailbreaker. If there is, I haven't seen it in plain sight.

    He/She can't ask what they don't know or seek to find what they don't know.

    I'm still learning new things such as "Mikoto" as recent as this year and I've been jailbreaking for years.
     
  18. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Well said.
    It's kinda like natural selection.
    Those who should not jailbreak eventually mess it up and then blame the JB and everyone else. And they are like "Jailbreaking sucks, I'm never doing this again"
    And then they live happily ever after :D
     
  19. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    I get you and I do believe that the JB community does try something like that - particularly the jailbreak community on reddit.

    That said, I learned you don't do an Erase All Contents and Settings the easy way. I'm frequently here and I read about people that put themselves in that spot. I picked up that piece of advice because I was paying attention to this forum.

    I've learned several other things the same way. How to get into No Mobile Substrate Safe Mode and how to use iCleaner Pro for troubleshooting for instance.

    Reddit lets you know almost instantaneously whether an update has problems because people over there post extremely frequently.

    But the incurious are never here, there, or any place else. They operate in a vaccuum blissfully doing whatever they feel like without thinking about possible consequences. They only ask questions because they encounter a problem after they blunder.

    That's the kind of person I am speaking of, not the user who may be new but is willing to ask and seek. And if you're willing to do that then the answers are out there.
     
  20. mdlooker macrumors 65816

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    I must say that I have learned the most here on MacRumors. Even if I didn't learn directly from here, it most likely came from a reference on here.
     
  21. Will22 macrumors 65816

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    I agree with you Erik but if for nothing else just to stop all the threads on here that is caused by people doing it.

    Without a doubt the onus of responsibility is on the person who is jailbreaking their device. Years ago I had a jailbroken 4s that was done by someone else for me and I got rid of the phone when the first Galaxy Note came out.

    Last year(April) was my first time back in iOS after that and I quickly found out that jailbreaking was the only way I was going to be able to stay with iOS so I crammed for a month or so before I took the plunge and even though I'm still learning stuff I'm comfortable doing it now.

    The problem especially with the latest jailbreak is that is was so easy that you didn't need to know anything more than what iOS you were on and how to open a website.
     
  22. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    I think that is probably the biggest fault with this current jailbreak.

    I work in an industry where the majority of my work is dealing with PDF files. Adobe worked hard to make PDF a standard and now almost any desktop app you use can make a PDF.

    It's made it ridiculously easy for everyday users to be printers and publishers. Yet they consistently send me PDFs that are not print ready by any definition you care to use - because they have no idea about the basics of the industry.

    In short Adobe made it so simple to create a PDF that 95-99% of PDFs sent to me for publication are wrong.

    Perhaps the current state of jailbreaking is somewhat akin to what I have described. It's so 'easy' to do that those who probably shouldn't do it, do it anyway and do it wrong.

    I don't want to go so far as to say that jailbreaking should not be made too easy - but well…we can see what is happening now.

    That probably makes me sound like a snob who wants to keep the know-nothings off his lawn, but there is something to be said for boning up on this.

    The fact that you did before you just jumped right back into it speaks well of you.
     
  23. okwhatev macrumors 6502

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    The most recent jailbreak, the one for 9.3.3 and below, doesn't mess with the boot system of iOS so does not go into a unrecoverable bootloop if you use "erase all content and settings". In fact, I frequently use this with my jailbroken devices when I need to and then simply rejailbreak the device with a computer.

    The "eternal bootloop" problem with "erase all content and settings" only applies to a completely untethered jailbreak, not to the current jailbreak which requires rejailbreaking on-device with every startup.
     
  24. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    I hear what you are saying and I actually advised this at one point…then I started hearing about those on 9.3.3 who did this, either while jailbroken or not, who had to restore.

    I don't know if other factors are involved but I look at it this way. Lots of people advise setting up your phone as new when you upgrade and then jailbreak. Lots of people also advise not to do OTA updates and then jailbreak. But many people (including myself when it comes to jailbreaking and setting up new) ignore that advice without issue.

    A couple of weeks ago I advised a guy who had done an OTA to 9.0.2 to simply Erase All Contents and Settings (he was not jailbroken at the time), set up as new, jailbreak, and then restore from a backup. This allowed him to jailbreak and keep his data. Not an instruction I would ordinarily advise, but there was no way he could do a DFU restore as new because it would have taken him to 9.3.4.

    My point is that for the most part stuff like this does not bite us in the ass - but it's possible it can.

    So, technically you are very, very right and it should work (and does for you) but I just hesitate to advise this when I see others who are still having issues because of it.
     
  25. white4s macrumors 65816

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    anyone have an update on when it'll be released? I read within the next month

    dying for a jailbreak, going on with 6 months with a factory se booooooring
     

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