Auto iOS 10 Maps - Low Volume for Guidance

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  1. Poob Bubes macrumors 6502a

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    Ever since updating to iOS 10, the volume for guidance is way too low. I thought it could be an issue with my 6s since it was running betas previously, but I just tested it out on my new iPhone 7 with the same result. Is this a bug or is there any way to increase the volume? All other audio is nice and loud (Siri, music, etc). 2016 Honda Accord
     
  2. akswun macrumors regular

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    ugh... used maps last night while streaming apple music. I had to jack the volume up in my car just to hear the directions. I don't even know why I used maps as I personally feel Google Maps is far superior, especially in re-routing and traffic updates.
     
  3. PeteLP macrumors regular

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    Have either of you tried changing the maps audio level from within the iPhone's Maps app?

    You can only do it once you've chosen a destination and tapped
    directions > go

    Then tap the bottom panel and then tap audio.

    They have three volume levels, plus a "no sound" option. It seems to remember the setting for future navigation.

    Not sure if this affects carplay maps audio or not, but its worth a try, since carplay IS using the phone's maps app.
     
  4. Poob Bubes thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, I have. This had no effect. You can also set this in Settings.

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  5. Macaddict16 macrumors 6502

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    My car has a separate voice navigation volume that I can adjust only while Siri is talking. If I raise that while she is talking it saves that setting for future use. What system are you using in the car?
     
  6. Poob Bubes thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    No, my car doesn't have this. There is only one master volume control. It's HondaLink.

    It worked fine on iOS 9.
     
  7. Macaddict16 macrumors 6502

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    Does your HondaLink have Carplay or is it only through Honda's interface. Mine has CarPlay and I wonder if that is CarPlay specific to have 2 different audio volumes.
     
  8. PeteLP, Sep 26, 2016
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    Reading your answer, it seemed possible to me that you may have interpreted Macaddict's statement in a way that was not intended. So just in case, I'm going to restate it. Forgive me if you already understood this.

    I believe that when Macaddict16 says he "has a separate voice navigation volume for siri" he means that, despite the fact that he has ONLY ONE volume CONTROLLER, when he changes that normal volume control WHEN SIRI IS SPEAKING the car does NOT change the volume for music. The volume is changed just for siri's voice, including voice guidance. (That's what Apple's developer guidelines require of car manufacturers using carplay)

    Have you tried changing the volume specifically WHEN SIRI IS SPEAKING. Does that leave the music volume unchanged? Also does SIRI remember the volume change thereafter?

    If you understood all of this all along, then I'm the one who misunderstood. So please take no offense.
     
  9. Poob Bubes thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks guys, that was it. Turns out there are three different audio memories. Music, Siri, and map guidance all have their own if you adjust the volume when the respective one is active. Feel like a dufus for not trying this earlier.
     
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    What did you change? Did changing the volumes stop the carplay from automatically switching to guidance volume? How did you do it?
     
  12. PeteLP, Dec 1, 2016
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    You change the CAR'S VOLUME CONTROL during a moment when siri is giving audio voice guidance for map directions.

    You must do this during a moment when siri is actually speaking the directions

    What changes is the car's volume for siri's spoken navigation directions.

    The volume the car subsequently uses for iphone music or audiobooks, for example, is NOT changed.

    Just to be clear: CarPlay knows when its speaking navigation guidance instructions and when its playing music, and siri automatically uses the volume level you last chose for each. If its playing music and voice guidance instructions at the same time, siri interprets a change in the cars volume control (at that moment) to be intended specifically for voice guidance
     
  13. garoto macrumors member

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    I have the same issue with my 2017 CR-V, but even after raising the volume of "Guidance Volume" to its max of 11, I still think it isn't loud enough, particularly when I'm listening to music.
     
  14. oldmaven macrumors newbie

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    I have tried everything in this thread, and nothing helps.l ('16 Civic, iPhone 5s)
     
  15. garoto macrumors member

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    So you have the same issue as me on a 2016 Civic? That means that neither Apple or Honda care to release a fix? efn' great!
     
  16. Mr.X macrumors newbie

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    Is there a setting to get CP to pause the music while giving GPS directions?
    I understand that there's separate volumes for GPS and Music, but it doesn't duck the music anywhere near enough, and I'd rather have the music paused anyway.
     
  17. Mr.X macrumors newbie

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    Having a separate volume control just for guidance is of no benefit if the music is not reduced in volume sufficiently. If I'm listening to music at more than a low volume, it drowns out the guidance voice (even with it at 11, the maximum). I've ended up just using Google Maps and living without the map on the big screen. Very lame, CarPlay.
    If they simply added the ability to auto-pause the music when navigation instructions (or any SIRI voices) come on, everything would be great! At the very least, have CarPlay respect the navigation voice-over settings on the iPhone. It seems to ignore the Low/Medium/High settings in the app.
     
  18. Thepixelsedge macrumors regular

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    Yup I've got this same issue on a 2016 Civic EX-T... guidance volume is at max and it's barely audible over road noise if you have a window open.

    I never had this issue on iOS 9 but it seems most ppl on this thread have the same car as me. Maybe something between the civics software and iOS 10 isn't getting along?
     
  19. garoto macrumors member

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    Same issue. iPhone 7 Plus, iOS 10.2.1, 2017 CR-V AWD Touring

    I think it's actually Honda's fault because my phone works fine on a 2017 Civic.
     
  20. BillRN, Mar 19, 2017
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    --- Post Merged, Mar 19, 2017 ---
    For dummies like me who took an inordinate amount of time to figure out the logic, let me be very explicit.
    In the car:
    1. Start the car and plug in your iOS device. Select CarPlay and then Maps (Apple Maps, not the built-in navigation system) . Choose a route, any route, but preferably one with a lengthy first instruction to give yourself plenty of time.
    2. While Siri is speaking the first instruction in the driving directions tap on the volume key to increase the volume. This maneuver only controls the volume for Siri, not for music or any other function. Note that when you begin to tap, while Siri is speaking, a guidance volume histogram appears at the top of the display. I found I needed to increase the volume to maximum.
    On the phone:
    Go to Settings: Maps: Driving&Navigation.
    Check "loud volume" and "pause spoken word." I don't know what impact this will have on music, I just tested it with podcasts and it worked for those. Hopefully music will either be reduced in volume or muted automatically when instructions are announced.

    I found these settings as good as it gets (unless someone knows more than I do). I'm still not happy with the volume-- I think it's too low and we should be given more bars on the histogram. Hope this helps.
     
  21. PeteLP macrumors regular

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    Nicely done
     
  22. rivvit macrumors newbie

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    Okay, I figured out a decent solution to this, at least for my 2017 Honda CR-V Touring. First, see this video to put your head unit in diagnostic mode:
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    Then select the menu item for Vol Setting, then Navigation Volume. Change level 11 to the maximum volume level, and if you like, bump up levels 9 and 10 a bit as well. Use the back button to get back up to the main display and give it a try. Now Siri's spoken navigation, when set to maximum volume 11 as described above, is not drowned out by road noise, music or podcasts for me.
     
  23. Figaro56 macrumors newbie

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    --- Post Merged, Sep 26, 2017 ---
    My 2017 Honda CRV Apple Carplay does not let me increase volume when NAV is reading directions, it's locked at a volume of 11 and will not let me increase that volume. When Siri is talking it will let me increase that volume.
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    Yes that was the problem. The top volume in there is 11 and in that setting you change volume from 1 to 56 and it was set to 41. I cranked that volume 11 for NAV up to 56 and it's just about perfect now.
     

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