ios 11.2 killed my iphone 6 plus

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by adildenadam, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. LA_LEE macrumors member

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    #26
    Or you could have replaced the battery for $80 and got another year out of it...but that shiny new phone gave you no choice. :)
     
  2. Radon87000 macrumors 604

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    Security updates and bug fixes are constantly being issued for older versions of Android as welll.
     
  3. I7guy macrumors P6

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    That’s what they say, I don’t see it across the board. Nonetheless though, if downgrading is a requirement than iOS is not for you.
     
  4. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Curious, what's the downgrade process for Android?
     
  5. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    I would love the option to be able to downgrade the iOS version on iphones and ipads.
    It should be my choice if I want to deal with older bugs or get stuck with a slower device with the newer iOS and the newer bugs :D
    But what am I saying, Apple giving users such options?
    Not going to happen unfortunately.
     
  6. TC_GoldRush macrumors 6502

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    I'm well aware of the fact that this is off topic, however I have a serious question to ask...
    I have an iPhone 6s Plus running iOS 9.3.3, and I'm wondering if I should update to iOS 11.3?
    My phone works perfectly for me right now, and all of my applications still support iOS 9, however I'm worried that they soon won't. I probably would've already updated my phone, however I'm scared of all the battery and glitches that come with iOS 11, I'm still on the fence about this one.. Should I update?
     
  7. ipooed macrumors 6502a

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    With Samsung it usually involves downloading the previous firmware, putting phone into recovery and installing that firmware via Odin. Very simple procedure, Even if it requires root (which some newer Samsungs do)
     
  8. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    So by most measures it seems like something that the vast majority of typical Android users wouldn't even know about or really would usually attempt even if they did. Simply making that observation in context of various people mentioning similar things when it comes to installing a tvOS profile for iOS to prevent updates or downgrading iOS in the first few weeks after a new version is released when it's possible to downgrade (which appear to be no more complex and perhaps even less so).
     
  9. Radon87000 macrumors 604

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    Download the stock firmware and install it on your device. Only Samsung devices need root. Nokia Moto and Pixel don’t need root to install.
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    When these users start facing performance issues and battery problems and they search the web they will eventually go down this route. Also unlike the tvOS workaround on Android if you want to you can try out the newer version in the future to see if your issues can be fixed. If they aren’t you can downgrade back.

    Google also issues security patches for multiple versions of Android so they are all simultaneously up to date.
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    Apple wants to trap users onto their newest OS and over a period time as you are forced into updating the device it becomes slower and slower until you end up wanting a newer one. They have done this with the home button for instance.
     
  10. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    It doesn't change the complexity of it. I'm sure a lot of users can figure it out if needed (just as many likely wouldn't even bother or perhaps wouldn't go through with it or get it working if they tried). Just wanted to link that to the arguments about tvOS profile or the rollback of iOS when it's possible (during a period when a previous version is still being signed) being some sort of a complexity basically being moot given all of this.
     
  11. Radon87000 macrumors 604

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    It's no more complex than flashing an ipsw file on an iPhone. I think you are underestimating the intelligence of the iOS user base as well. Almost 4 months later iOS 10 and below still have a 40% share. This is despite Apple's invasive prompts and auto downloads. I think that's pretty telling how people are jumping through hoops to dodge that iOS 11 update.
     
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    Yes, but its still possible with them. If someone really wants to downgrade and its possible people will follow the steps needed to do it.
    With iOS once the window of opportunity closes and Apple stops signing that version then its over. Its not possible at all.
     
  14. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Definitely. I was just commenting on the process aspect of it and the analogous comparison related to it.
     
  15. thesaint024 macrumors 65816

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    No idea what prior iOS adoption rates have been so I don't know what this means relative to the past, but corporate users often aren't allowed to update their phones to new OS's. That could be a chunk of it. But aside from that, not sure why you and others consider iOS 11 notorious and to be avoided like the plague. I know about the past autocorrect and security bug, but I'm not sure why people would avoid iOS11 more than any of the past. These kinds of bugs pop up in all iOS versions right? I am not up to speed on the controversy.
     
  16. Radon87000, Dec 8, 2017
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    It's been slower than both iOS 9 and iOS 10. Much slower actually. iOS 10 was already installed on 60% devices on Oct 27 2016. iOS 11 is still on 59% on Dec 8 2017. It's easy to see most have decided to stay on iOS 10 rather than upgrade to the Windows Vista of iOS.

    https://www.phonearena.com/news/iOS...option-lagging-behind-older-versions_id100470
     
  17. thesaint024 macrumors 65816

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    Haha. “Windows Vista of iOS” are big words. I’m still not getting it though. Hardware and design changes make sense to be controversial. But iOS pretty much seems the the same to me with incremental changes. I don’t understand what would cause the masses to adopt more slowly or for this release to be disliked. The only logical I can think of is that the demographic of iOS users is becoming more mainstream and just ignorant of updating. This OS doesn’t seem any more or less buggy than past versions.
     
  18. a-m-k macrumors 6502a

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    What happened with the OP. I would love to see how this is going from the first post they posted....
     
  19. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Seems like the OP essentially made a "drive-by" thread, not to be seen since again.
     
  20. IowaLynn macrumors 65816

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    Clean install (after backUPS) and setup as new.

    Apple does sell 6S+ on the refurb'd page.
     
  21. HeadphoneAddict macrumors 6502a

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    iOS 11 broke my iPhone 6 with new battery, but I wont do the setup as new until iMessage is in the cloud and can be restored simply by signing into my iCloud account.

    Also, WHY does Apple insist on forcing us to insert a SIM card into an unlocked iPhone when we wipe it to setup as new? All my SIM cards are busy in other phones at the moment.
     

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