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I might struggle with this new way of doing things, but I've watched kids 12 and under use iPads and drag and drop on game interfaces in various gaming systems. They move their fingers around the user interface at speeds my eye and brain can't follow and have skills I probably can't develop at this stage of my life. My 12 year old seemed to find this part of the keynote interesting. In this case, Apple might be addressing the future better than those of us who grew up on mice and joysticks can appreciate.

Yes, in a way, drag-and-drop is about 'touching the content' and manipulating it directly instead of issuing "commands" for it. That's the old-gen way of doing thing. :p
[doublepost=1497016002][/doublepost]The iOS 11 interface looks so refined and modern. I was sad about the loss of the skeuomorphic interface of versions past, and felt that the "flat" UI was just a fad, but if you look carefully, they are bringing some of the physics back again, with shadows and more animation. So it's headed in the right direction again.
 
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If it's as complicated as watching that video was, then this is not for me. If I hadn't had the explanation in text below the video, I would have had no idea what was going on. Even with the text, it was really confusing . . . but then again, I'm an old fart.
 
That's neat, but I wish that iOS just had a downloads folder now that I could pop into the dock. Or even just a button on that file download page that says "Add to Downloads".
 
It does looks like a really great feature that will make a big difference on the iPad Pro. It's also a stand out moment along with the new iPad Pro's and the iMac's from WWDC.

Does it just work on the iPad Pro or will it work on the recently updated iPad's as well?
 
Does it just work on the iPad Pro or will it work on the recently updated iPad's as well?

I would guess that all features except for the ones that require Apple Pencil will work, perhaps not as well tho.
 
I haven't cared about an iPad for five or six years now, but iOS 11 and the new Pro have piqued my curiosity. I might have to pick one up this time around. They are baking in some great features!
 
So to clarify these new features won't be available until the iOS 11 update this fall or will the new iPad Pro have them when you're able to buy it?
 
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If it works as well as text selection and copy and paste, forget about it. Still baffled that its near impossible sometimes to properly select text on iOS and Safari, its either one word, or the whole f*cking page of text and you can't adjust it, yet same website on Chrome on Android text selection works properly.
Text selection with 3D touch works so much better in overall....but yes, in safari its bit clunky.
 
If it's as complicated as watching that video was, then this is not for me. If I hadn't had the explanation in text below the video, I would have had no idea what was going on. Even with the text, it was really confusing . . . but then again, I'm an old fart.
From one old fart to another, I would encourage you to do everything in your power to constantly keep updating your tech skills.

I have dealt with elders all of my life. The ones who keep pushing themselves to keep up with learning new concepts and skills stay shockingly clear minded and able to survive very challenging physical illnesses with their wits and abilities intact. The ones who sit back and expect the younger people to do everything for them get addled and can't keep up with anything. It's like they give up and so their minds rust. All my life I have been encouraged by my own elders to throw myself into understanding the very things that confuse me the most and that I want to avoid.

I fully intend to have the most cutting edge smart phone and computers in the retirement home! :p

However I will stop short of implants and other Mark of the Beasty type cyborg stuff. I don't want the nursing home attendants to hack my brain and force me into participating in Bridge tournaments. :eek:
 
Anything that you notice about the stability that concerns you, or is it just the usual random crash stuff?

I personally have felt that it has been pretty usable. There have been random bugs. Did suffer some battery drain, but reset network settings and and that seemed to work.
 
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the new ipad and it's IOS 11 features is what is going to make me dump my laptop for the 12.9 pro..will see how it goes
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So to clarify these new features won't be available until the iOS 11 update this fall or will the new iPad Pro have them when you're able to buy it?
IOS update
 
I wonder if these new features will be disabled on ipad air 2 and older...
 
If it works as well as text selection and copy and paste, forget about it. Still baffled that its near impossible sometimes to properly select text on iOS and Safari, its either one word, or the whole f*cking page of text and you can't adjust it, yet same website on Chrome on Android text selection works properly.
I believe text selection has been improved in iOS 11 and is much more accurate and easier to use.
 
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You know what would make it better? Allowing people the OPTION of using a MOUSE. The stubborn refusal to even entertain mouse support has created a limiting factor that prevents my iPad Pro from ever really replacing my MacBook Pro as a road-worthy utility. It's still the device to read books, watch movies, and casually surf the web. With the Apple Pencil, it gained a few new tricks; however, when typing emails, working on spreadsheets or formatting documents - a mouse remains the preferred input method. It's still cumbersome to type, stop, pick up the Pencil, point at something, try to scroll with it, then go back to typing. The mouse is tried and true and has proven its mettle.
 
I haven't used iTunes in probably 6 years

I don't use it either, but it has proven useful a couple of times. Also remember that with the iPP pro you can't do some stuff like having two excel sheets up at the same time. I am just saying, be careful.
 
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