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Cat5e

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I've read that the 9.7" iPP will not have all of the functionality of the 10.5" iPP with iOS 11. Does anyone have a comprehensive list of what the 9.7" model cannot do?

Thanks
 

darkarn

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I'll start the list by saying that the 9.7 Pro will not be as fast as the 10.5

But only more will be known once iOS 11 comes out
 

Chupa Chupa

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I gotta call BS on that. I've been using beta iOS 11 on my mini 4. Every feature Apple has enabled so far works on my mini 4. No reason it wouldn't work on the iPP 9.7 too since it's newer and more advanced. Obviously hardware features that did not ship with the mini 4 like Live Photos continue to not work. Too be expected. Same would be true of the iPP 9.7.

But the dock, the control center, quick type keyboard, split view in safari, etc. all there and working. Was there a specific feature you were thinking about that might not work?
 

akash.nu

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I've read that the 9.7" iPP will not have all of the functionality of the 10.5" iPP with iOS 11. Does anyone have a comprehensive list of what the 9.7" model cannot do?

Thanks

Your source is incorrect. Don't read from such sources in the future.
 
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aakshey

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I gotta call BS on that. I've been using beta iOS 11 on my mini 4. Every feature Apple has enabled so far works on my mini 4. No reason it wouldn't work on the iPP 9.7 too since it's newer and more advanced. Obviously hardware features that did not ship with the mini 4 like Live Photos continue to not work. Too be expected. Same would be true of the iPP 9.7.

But the dock, the control center, quick type keyboard, split view in safari, etc. all there and working. Was there a specific feature you were thinking about that might not work?

Can you run 3 apps plus PIP with all active at the same time?
 

Chupa Chupa

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Can you run 3 apps plus PIP with all active at the same time?


On the mini 4 I can only run 2 apps in split view. I think that is to be expected 4 app windows on the mini 4 isn't practical, just a proof of concept. Trying to get a 3 just launches it in it's own window.
 

yoavcs

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You can’t have the two split-screen and one slide-over windows all active at the same time on anything but the newest Pros. Due to the need for 4GB of RAM.
 
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akash.nu

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You can’t have the two split-screen and one slide-over windows all active at the same time on anything but the newest Pros. Due to the need for 4GB of RAM.

Is it confirmed that the limitation is due to 4GB RAM?
 
Things could always change through the betas (in fact things have switched already a few times), but at WWDC media was reporting that 9.7 pro wouldn't be able to run 3 apps simultaneously but 12.9 pro (gen 1) would be able to.

That is the only possible thing it wouldn't be able to do.

Note: I'm not sure if this was reported through experimentation of beta 1 or through confirmation with Apple.
 

Shanghaichica

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No the 9.7 inch iPad Pro will have all of the same features of iOS 11 as the 10.5 and 12.9 inch pros released this year.
 

Max Your Macs

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When you have the 3rd app (slide over) open the other 2 (split screen) apps should be inactive. Are you saying all 3 apps are simultaneously active for you on the current beta?

Yes. I have two apps open in Split View and then open a 3rd in Slide Over, such as YouTube, and it plays perfectly fine. No lag, no stutter, no issues at all.
 
Yes. I have two apps open in Split View and then open a 3rd in Slide Over, such as YouTube, and it plays perfectly fine. No lag, no stutter, no issues at all.

This is on a 9.7 Pro on the latest beta. I can use the third app, but I can’t use the other 2 apps without dismissing the slide over app
 

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Max Your Macs

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This is on a 9.7 Pro on the latest beta. I can use the third app, but I can’t use the other 2 apps without dismissing the slide over app

You're right! I just tested it side by side on my first gen 12.9" and my 1.5" and there IS a difference. With the 10.5" the Split View windows are in fact active but they are asleep/paused on the 12.9". Interesting...
 
There have been a lot of complaints on this forum about "planned obsolescence" because of this. I personally don't think it's a big deal at all on my 9.7 because the screen is so small and it's no big deal to dismiss and bring back a slide over view anyway. The 12.9 with 4GB RAM and larger screen I think has more of an argument to be made.
 

Max Your Macs

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There have been a lot of complaints on this forum about "planned obsolescence" because of this. I personally don't think it's a big deal at all on my 9.7 because the screen is so small and it's no big deal to dismiss and bring back a slide over view anyway. The 12.9 with 4GB RAM and larger screen I think has more of an argument to be made.

I absolutely agree with you. The first generation 12.9 in particular having the same 4GB of memory should be on a more even level. You are right about the practicality of using something like this on the smaller screens but the larger screen could benefit. I have a hard time believing it takes such huge processor power to run something like this as well since typically two of the three apps aren’t going to be all that demanding. In my tests I was using Safari and Calendar in Split Biew with YouTube on top. The 12.9 paused Safari and Calendar same as yours but all three stayed active on the 10.5.
 
I just thought of an instance where I might find this frustrating.... YouTube. So right now I'm enjoying the free 3 month trial of YouTube Red, so YouTube continues to play over audio even when minimized. But without YouTube Red I'm guessing that the video will pause when it becomes inactive?? If so that would be annoying
 

jucafelix

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I just thought of an instance where I might find this frustrating.... YouTube. So right now I'm enjoying the free 3 month trial of YouTube Red, so YouTube continues to play over audio even when minimized. But without YouTube Red I'm guessing that the video will pause when it becomes inactive?? If so that would be annoying

You could download Protube, the PiP works really well, you can close the app and the video will keep playing. I use an app called opener that allows me to open every youtube link on protube.
 
You could download Protube, the PiP works really well, you can close the app and the video will keep playing. I use an app called opener that allows me to open every youtube link on protube.

Thanks for the tip. I think I heard about Protube on here once before. I'll look into it. Do you have any downsides to using it vs the official YouTube app?
 

spiderman0616

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There have been a lot of complaints on this forum about "planned obsolescence" because of this. I personally don't think it's a big deal at all on my 9.7 because the screen is so small and it's no big deal to dismiss and bring back a slide over view anyway. The 12.9 with 4GB RAM and larger screen I think has more of an argument to be made.
I don't think it has much to do with planned obsolescence, but I think Apple maybe should have skipped the 9.7" iPad Pro and just released the 10.5" Pro when it was ready. At the time of launch, the 9.7" iPad Pro had 2 GB of RAM and the same screen dimensions as the Air 2. The speakers and processor and all that were all still fantastic, but that 2 GB of RAM was going to age it pretty quickly, and that was frustrating for people (like me) who bought one on day one only to have it discontinued in the next iteration of Pros.

I will admit, the 4 GB of RAM and screen size difference were the two major factors that encouraged me to upgrade. Luckily the 9.7" to 10.5" upgrade felt like a HUGE upgrade to me, so I wasn't frustrated for long. The 10.5" iPad Pro is fantastic and I'm very glad I bought one. But yes, that 2 GB of RAM in the 9.7" is going to limit you in some regards with the multitasking and some of the higher powered apps.
 
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