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I haven't use it yet, but from the pictures and videos I've seen, it looks, bad in my opinion.
The notification center is extremely ugly, it looks like they tried to simplify things but made it look really unappealing, imo.

I was also hoping for a transparent dock, but it looks like more of the same shadowed waste of screen, instead of looking at our wallpaper full screen.

A dark mode would be nice, not some half baked inverting of colors, that is ridiculous if that's the best they are going to do.

I hope they change it up between now and September, because I'm sure I will be up at midnight putting my order in when they go on sale. I can't help myself.
 
Anything new is always "bad". They won't change it in a major way.

true... I always label betas as "bad.. but that's just me..... Their early stages of development software and u hope by the final beta, it visually looks better... as well as the features u like,

He's hoping :)
 
The new Notification Center and control center is brilliant! At first I thought it was a horrible move after I watched the keynote. After installed beta 1 and test drove it I understand the changes. It actually makes notifications less cluttered, if you want to see most recent notifications swipe down, anything older that you didn’t get to because it probably was less important swipe up. Then the control center, it’s more compact, fits more stuff and it’s 3D Touchable. It actually makes perfect sense the way these new designs are. If people would actually use the new features they would see that it’s better.
 
The new Notification Center and control center is brilliant! At first I thought it was a horrible move after I watched the keynote. After installed beta 1 and test drove it I understand the changes. It actually makes notifications less cluttered, if you want to see most recent notifications swipe down, anything older that you didn’t get to because it probably was less important swipe up. Then the control center, it’s more compact, fits more stuff and it’s 3D Touchable. It actually makes perfect sense the way these new designs are. If people would actually use the new features they would see that it’s better.
what about Apple removing the ability to search in spotlight anywhere? Right now in iOS 10 you can swipe down in any app, on any screen and search for an app to launch. I can't find that option in iOS 11.

edit: they moved it to the left on the widgets screen. just another added step that wasn't necessary, just like pulling up twice to view notifications older than a few minutes.
 
what about Apple removing the ability to search in spotlight anywhere? Right now in iOS 10 you can swipe down in any app, on any screen and search for an app to launch. I can't find that option in iOS 11.

edit: they moved it to the left on the widgets screen. just another added step that wasn't necessary, just like pulling up twice to view notifications older than a few minutes.

I can’t say that I’ve ever used spotlight in that way. I’ve only use it from the lock screen or the home screen. But if you need to use it while in an app you can still swipe down but you’ll also need to swipe over to widgets page to do it. One extra step, not sure why the moved it. Maybe to make the UI a bit cleaner, or based on data gathered it was not used that way much so didn’t seem necessary to keep it there. Only they know the answer.
 
I can’t say that I’ve ever used spotlight in that way. I’ve only use it from the lock screen or the home screen. But if you need to use it while in an app you can still swipe down but you’ll also need to swipe over to widgets page to do it. One extra step, not sure why the moved it. Maybe to make the UI a bit cleaner, or based on data gathered it was not used that way much so didn’t seem necessary to keep it there. Only they know the answer.

In iOS 10, when you are in an app you can partially swipe down from the top to go straight to spotlight search and Siri suggestions instead of the notifications centre. Has this been removed as well? I understand from what you have said that the spotlight search has been removed from notification centre but this is slightly different.

I really hope not because this would be a very handy way to initiate split view multitasking for apps not in the dock.
 
Yes, this has been removed in iOS 11 beta so far.

Thanks. I will be providing feedback on this and hope others will too. It would be a handy way to initiate split screen multitasking for apps not in the dock and it seems unnecessary to remove this feature.
 
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Thanks. I will be providing feedback on this and hope others will too. It would be a handy way to initiate split screen multitasking for apps not in the dock and it seems unnecessary to remove this feature.
it seems unnecessary for them to turn the notification center into the lock screen :rolleyes: still boggles my mind 3 weeks later.
 
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it seems unnecessary for them to turn the notification center into the lock screen :rolleyes: still boggles my mind 3 weeks later.

I suspect it might have something to do with the fingerprint sensor that is rumoured to be integrated into the lock screen. Maybe that will let you lock / unlock your phone with a single swipe?

Some features seem stupid when viewed in a vacuum but later make sense when considered alongside the new hardware features.
 
I suspect it might have something to do with the fingerprint sensor that is rumoured to be integrated into the lock screen. Maybe that will let you lock / unlock your phone with a single swipe?

Some features seem stupid when viewed in a vacuum but later make sense when considered alongside the new hardware features.

You provide a valid argument, however, I think I can provide a valid counter argument... what about the 3/4 of users on an old iPhone when the new launches.
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If people would actually use the new features they would see that it’s better.

Oh I’m using em. I’m not liking em.
 
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You provide a valid argument, however, I think I can provide a valid counter argument... what about the 3/4 of users on an old iPhone when the new launches.
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Oh I’m using em. I’m not liking em.

People with old phones can still use all previous features, things may have been tweaked a bit but not removed. People with newer phones will appreciate the tweaks and subtle changes. You will also like the tweaks to control center and Notification Center in time. I’m on a 7 plus and I love it already simply because it makes sense the way they did it.
 
People with old phones can still use all previous features, things may have been tweaked a bit but not removed. People with newer phones will appreciate the tweaks and subtle changes. You will also like the tweaks to control center and Notification Center in time. I’m on a 7 plus and I love it already simply because it makes sense the way they did it.

So I’m not arguing people can use the features. I’m arguing the tweaks are bad. Look I’ve been using OS X since I paid for the $20 beta, the iPhone since Phone OS 2, and the iPad since launch. I have a 7 Plus. And I have an iPad Pro. I’m using the betas on my daily drivers. I don’t like the change.
 
So I’m not arguing people can use the features. I’m arguing the tweaks are bad. Look I’ve been using OS X since I paid for the $20 beta, the iPhone since Phone OS 2, and the iPad since launch. I have a 7 Plus. And I have an iPad Pro. I’m using the betas on my daily drivers. I don’t like the change.

Valid argument, but a similar argument can be made by me. I’ve owned every iPhone except the 5c or SE versions or whatever those were. I’ve had the original iPad, iPad mini and currently own the large iPad Pro. I’ve been using the Mac since 2007 about a year after they switched over to intel processors. I’ve been using their .mac service since it was a paid service, which is why my primary Apple account ends with @mac.com. That service was changed to .me and now iCloud as we know it. I’ve lived through many tweaks and design changes and I honestly have to say I cannot remember a change that was bad or I wish they’d revert to a previous form.

I think these tweaks will fall into these categories:

1. Those who like it or don’t mind (me)
2. Those who hate or don’t like it (you)
3. Those who don’t even know it exists or never bothered use the previous iterations. (Most people) Because most people who own iPhones use it for the core features, safari, photos, calendar phone calls, music games etc. Siri isn’t even among this, most of my friends don’t even use Siri and I can’t blame them because Siri sometimes have a hard time understanding my American accent, other times she can’t get simple requests right.

The point is we are amongst a smaller percentage of iPhone and iOS users who actually care about these little features and tweaks.
 
Valid argument, but a similar argument can be made by me. I’ve owned every iPhone except the 5c or SE versions or whatever those were. I’ve had the original iPad, iPad mini and currently own the large iPad Pro. I’ve been using the Mac since 2007 about a year after they switched over to intel processors. I’ve been using their .mac service since it was a paid service, which is why my primary Apple account ends with @mac.com. That service was changed to .me and now iCloud as we know it

Oh you never got to experience iTools. We’re overdue for the iCloud successor any time now :p
 
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You provide a valid argument, however, I think I can provide a valid counter argument... what about the 3/4 of users on an old iPhone when the new launches.

iOS 10 notifications says hi.

Great for iPhones with force touch, not so much for iOS devices without (especially iPads).
 
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