ios 11...your personal reflection..Do you enjoy ios 11?

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by pat500000, Sep 19, 2017.

  1. pat500000 macrumors 604

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    After all day hectic-ness, how do you guys feel about ios 11? I know it's only a day, but how is your user's experience? Smooth? buggy? In what way does ios 11 improved over previous ios-es? What needs to improve? Did you regret upgrading?
     
  2. xxray macrumors 6502a

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    I had it for about a month through the last few betas up to GM. I did like most of the changes. However, iOS 10.3.3 is noticeably faster on my 7, so I downgraded from iOS 11 today. Also, I don’t like how Apple removed features in iOS 11, like swiping down notifications in reachability without having to touch the top of your screen, and the 3D Touch multitasking shortcut. Also, they removed the ability to actually turn off WiFi and Bluetooth in control center in iOS 11. Instead, it just disables new connections but it still keeps Bluetooth and WiFi on. What’s the point of that?

    I’ll be staying on iOS 10.3.3 probably for quite a while, as speed is really important to me, and there’s nothing really that iOS 11 offers me besides some nice visual changes.
     
  3. Sharkoneau macrumors 6502a

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    I've been running iOS 11 since Beta 6, and have seen it develop from that point onward. It was good for me on my 7, and only got better. However, it isn't perfect yet (I'll get into that later). Here is what I do appreciate:

    • Control Center customization: This grew on me over time, in terms of looks. But I loved adding new toggles that suited me. Just having the option to enable low power mode without going into Settings was a big win for me. Also using screen recording more than I envisioned
    • Notification Center: Meh, the unification is alright. Not much of an improvement for me. But my lock screen image is pretty, I dig that
    • Screenshots: Being able to take and immediately edit/send screenshots is pretty neat. Annotation tools are easier to access, and sharing with others is a simpler process. Kudos there
    • UI changes: Yes, major point of contention. However, I do like the bolder fonts, and overall more modern aesthetic to the OS here and there. I know that in terms of screen real estate it is technically a step back, but on a 4.7in screen the trade off is worth it to me. New storage graph is cool and more informative
    • iCloud account management: Having the ability to edit iCloud settings, account details, syncing preferences and view signed in devices (especially for account safety purposes) in a unified place is convenient. Gives the user more control over their personal data
    • Animations and general performance: YMMV. The new animation style made the phone feel fresh to me, and it still feels newer than it did previously. The phone feels more lively. For an initial release, the experience is very smooth
    However, there are some bugs here and there. For me, visual voicemail does not display (on Verizon). Notification Center notifications occasionally have their text spill out of the container. There is a widely-documented (and again hotly debated) home button delay for 7's and 7 pluses, where a press isn't instantly registered. This is far from crippling, but you may notice. Slight animation stutter when accessing 3D touch menus on the 7 series, but it's minor.

    TLDR, I'm satisfied so far and know things will improve even more with time. Hope this helped, and happy updating!
     
  4. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    I can see what you're saying. In your opinion, why do you think they might have removed those features?
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    I hear you on screen shot feature...NICE. UI, maybe apple needs to work on that. I definitely forgotten about visual voicemail. Was that only on Verizon?
     
  5. Sharkoneau macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not sure if that issue was only on Verizon or not. I vaguely remember seeing that somebody was missing that on T-Mobile as well, but don't quote me there. Maybe a "reset network settings" is in order. If you really want to know for sure, have somebody send you a test voicemail.
     
  6. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Great...i'll try that.
     
  7. xxray macrumors 6502a

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    Well, reachability will be obsolete once all iPhones look like the iPhone X. No home button = no reachability. Not sure about the multitasking though, maybe the new gesture in the iPhone X as well?
     
  8. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Interesting thought. Thanks for sharing.
     
  9. Sharkoneau macrumors 6502a

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    I think it could be a combination of things, but we're still just speculating right now. As @xxray stated, this could have been removed due to changing gestures in the UI overall. Next year, all iPhone X gestures could become mainstream across the lineup. Also, there is a chance that they removed it to account for different gestures, and didn't have time to recode it. Apparently, there is inside word that the feature may be returning in 11.1.
     
  10. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    Bad first, then the positive;

    -Music app is more or less the same. Still prefer the simple, FAST iPod app before it was split into separate apps. Customizable, fast and easy access to local music (I use playlists that rely heavily on smart playlists, nested playlists/folder, play counts and ratings, things that don't sync well with iTunes Match/iCloud Library). I understand the push of Apple Music, but I want them to work together. Their cloud music library drops metadata you meticulously edit yourself, forgets play counts, wipes settings... I actually enjoy Apple Music, but won't use the library feature because I spent countless hours fixing my library with iTunes Match. Long story short, I want "Downloaded" items as a default option, with the ability to hide any and all Apple Music unless I specifically navigate to it, and purchased items except for in the iTunes Store. I love being able to go to Apple Music and listen to new stuff, or to re download my music anytime I want. But it doesn't work well integrated into my actual library.

    -For videos, I'm not as concerned about playcounts/etc., so I let them live in the cloud and that works well.

    -New App Store may grow on me, don't enjoy it immediately. I'm sure I'll get used to it. Again, still miss being able to update an app on one device, have it sync to all devices through iTunes.

    -iTunes logo stinks, looks too much like the iMovie logo, which is fitting.

    -Can't find some items (purchased App section

    Positive:

    -Music app isn't much different, so not any worse than before.

    -I prefer where they've moved the purchased section too, and am glad you can again hide items on mobile. To be honest, it shouldn't have been removed, but at least its back.

    -Notes, even its first form as a simple note-taking app, was great. It continues to add features that make it better than many paid-apps (or apps with in-app purchases), without losing its simplicity. It may be my favorite app. I always title my note with something like "Bills" "Things To Get Done", etc., and you can now choose the default - instead of starting with the body of the post, you can start with the heading. I can delete my QI reader app, I can ditch my document-capturing app, but it doesn't feel any more complicated. They should look at notes as the future of iOS.

    -I don't need full-fledged, file-system management on mobile, as I still have more items than I'm willing to pay for online storage for (damn 1080p concert rips take up too much space). So I prefer to manage most of my files at home. For my needs, the files app works pretty well - thus far.

    -Control center. If all they did was put the music on the first screen of control center, it was a win. It's going to take some getting used to, but it was literally a glorified folder with two-pages before. No longer.

    -No significant speed/battery issues on my 6S Plus yet.

    -Flashlight levels work great

    -Clear website data finally works, something you'd have thought would have worked from the beginning.

    My only "what-if" question is, does iBooks still sync ALL of your books to iCloud Backup? When iCloud backup first came out, it would act perfectly; sync your titles from iTunes, and only backup non-purchased items. However, it now saves non-iBook titles to iCloud Documents (as expected), but also purchased books to the iCloud backup, which results in pretty large backups. Also, syncing updates across devices doesn't work. iBooks gives you no clue as to what the update actually did (a forward from a friend/colleague of a recently-deceased author? Pictures? New chapters?), and it doesn't sync correctly. I've literally had updates across devices for about a year, I've tried everything, updating all iBooks on all devices, then syncing, updating on Mac, then syncing devices, etc. Doesn't work. People think iTunes was bloated, but iBooks worked much better inside of iTunes.
     
  11. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    If Apple is going that with x style, then i believe it would be.
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    So the music library: did it get messed up or something?

    No download as default? They should have it that as default. I agree.

    Purchased app section? I think they erased 32 bits apps.

    Good question in regards to iBooks. I had an impression that it was. I'm not sure. We'll have to see.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
  12. Sharkoneau macrumors 6502a

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    I also forgot to mention: Safari momentum scrolling is so much better than the old method. Pages scroll smoothly and glide across the screen, like scrolling through the Settings app. As someone who does a lot of mobile Safari browsing - and experienced scroll fatigue with how sticky the physics were before - this change was awesome. I surprised it took them so long to implement it.
     
  13. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Scrolling is effortless? I can't tell the difference from previous future.
     
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    Well been on it for a couple of hours. I dig it for the most part. Very slight delay in home button press on my 7 plus. Few gripes like still no basic weather on lock screen, volume still covers the center of screen never liked that. No new ringtones or message tones but they give us these horrid wallpapers. But I can live with it.
     
  15. M5RahuL macrumors 68020

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    It’s qute good on the new iPad Pro, but def. not optimized for the iPhone ..at least that’s been my experience with the 7+ ( been using 11 since dev preview one )

    Back to 10.3.3 while I still can!
     
  16. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    I think the delay is due to caches. People are saying it takes few days to get smooth again.
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    What do you mean not optimized for iphone?
     
  17. M5RahuL macrumors 68020

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    Lag & frame drops galore! And, no..it doesn’t take a few days.. This is how it’s been since a while now..
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    Here’s to hoping 11.1 will fix ( or at least bandaid ) these issues..
     
  18. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Really? not few days? That sucks.
     
  19. M5RahuL macrumors 68020

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    But only on the iphone...Running relatively great on the new iPad Pro
     
  20. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    -Short answer, there is a downloaded section, but you have to put it as your priority selection, and still select it. There's no way to "Hide iTunes Purchases" in your library without hiding them in the store for re-download. I may want to re download this album if I lose my house, but I don't want to download it now because it had six songs that sucked.

    No, music library is same as before (from what I see), but it hasn't been the same since Apple Music. I prefer Apple Music to be more like iTunes Radio, or a separate app for subscribers. The IDEA of integrating it into your personal library is nice, but it never worked with iTunes Match, and the same problems have persisted for six years. The iPod App for the first few years was fast, you could customize it depending on your needs (I used Playlists, Artists, Albums mostly), and it was fast. Even the TV App stinks compared to the Video App... it takes me a half-minute to access locally-stored videos because it assumes I want to watch their large range of "recommended" stuff for me. I'm okay with personalization, but Apple it almost looks like they are subsidizing their "we don't sell your info" with "but we want you to buy our stuff". I want my own ripped CD's/DVD's/music videos/movies front and center, not buried underneath stuff I've already bought from them. I buy all my media through Apple, so it feels like I'm being punished by buying from them in some ways.

    -Purchased Apps was an error. I prefer where they put the purchased apps in the iOS store. Only 32-bit app I enjoyed was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, which was long gone before I updated.

    -Pretty sure iBooks works the same way, and Health Data too. Health Data is sensitive; I can always re-download a missing book, so no big deal, but health data built up over time sucks to lose, but also sucks to have take up ten-times more space than it needs to.

    I have to say, even after six years, iOS 6 was probably the most stable, best-working iOS yet. I could go on, but I'll spare you.
     
  21. M5RahuL macrumors 68020

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    Agreed!
     
  22. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    good to hear on ipad pro!
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    I agree with ios 6.
     
  23. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Doesn't really mean that it can't be implemented through a gesture or something other than a home button.
     
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    Not a single issue so far! iPhone 6+ Plus and 2017 iPad 9.7.
    No delays, no glitches, nada.


    I am missing night shift mode button from control panel and i can’t add it in the settings.

    Message app now has a new bar at the bottom when typing messages. That’s interesting.

    Faster scrolling in safari now.

    I do miss the bubbles for cell signal, now it shows the bars. But what ever.

    I can now text from my iPad! That’s very cool!
     
  25. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    It seems like that for whatever reason they probably thought that inertia scrolling wouldn't be as useful or perhaps cause some issues for some in Safari.
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    If you 3D Touch or long press the brightness control in the control center it will reveal more options, including Night Shift.
     

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