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dan9700

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if nothing is new or changed just bug fixes does this really need betas or can't apple just release it without, normally beta testing means new features or changes
 

The Oak

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Huh? Wasn’t the Modem firmware for 12.1.1 for the iPhone XS 1.02.18? With 12.1.2, it’s now 1.03.02 and carrier is 34.5.5 for me.

iOSBry

Yup ... you are right ... First post said otherwise ... it has since been updated.

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So I am tempted now to go Beta. I have not made a backup yet of 12.1.1. Once I do that I will probably flip to Beta.
 

Johnhimm

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if nothing is new or changed just bug fixes does this really need betas or can't apple just release it without, normally beta testing means new features or changes
Bug fixes need beta testing as well with the million of phones out in the wild.
 
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Hyperchaotic

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Sure, just don't see the point in pushing fixes to another point update when you could wrap them into 12.2.
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My guess would be March
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Yup, I get that - my wording wasn't great. I just don't see the reason for a bunch of point updates.

I think the point is to push important bug fixes out to users much sooner than a 12.x update will be. Some bugs can't wait months.
 

WaruiKoohii

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Sure, just don't see the point in pushing fixes to another point update when you could wrap them into 12.2.

Yup, I get that - my wording wasn't great. I just don't see the reason for a bunch of point updates.
Unless 12.2 is right around the corner, then it doesn't make sense to let bugs linger when they could be resolved in point updates.

Would you rather deal with software bugs for months while waiting for a big update, or would you rather point releases to fix minor issues while waiting for larger updates?

if nothing is new or changed just bug fixes does this really need betas or can't apple just release it without, normally beta testing means new features or changes
Bug fixes are changes :)

if we don't know what has been changed or fixed how can we test it?
Without knowing specifically what has changed you can't do targeted testing, but you can still use your device and file reports of bugs that you find. You don't need to know specifics to find issues during regular use.
 

Eksoccer99

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Current at&t carrier is 35.0 on 12.1.1 release. Noticed in the notes 34.5.2 for this beta. Honestly, haven't seen any changes on my iPhone X. Owell
 

brar.arsh

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ok so Rogers wifi calling has stopped working as carrier settings number has moved back to 34.5.3 from 35.0
 

gwhizkids

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but what bugs we don't know anything
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if we don't know what has been changed or fixed how can we test it?
Remember, your phone logs info and relays info to Apple on performance. So even if you're not doing anything (reporting bugs, etc...), your phone is.
 
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Solver

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This version fixes a bug where it was easier to attempt a jailbreak break than the previous version.
 

FizzaFarian

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12.1.1
- Carrier 35.0
- Modem 1.02.18

12.1.2
- Carrier 34.5.3 (retrogressed?)
- Modem 1.03.02
 

DNichter

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Unless 12.2 is right around the corner, then it doesn't make sense to let bugs linger when they could be resolved in point updates.

Would you rather deal with software bugs for months while waiting for a big update, or would you rather point releases to fix minor issues while waiting for larger updates?

Bug fixes are changes :)


Without knowing specifically what has changed you can't do targeted testing, but you can still use your device and file reports of bugs that you find. You don't need to know specifics to find issues during regular use.

I am fine with whatever. Just feels like we should be moving onto 12.2 at this point instead of a point release, but it is what it is.
 

Banglazed

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Updated kernel
[doublepost=1544472345][/doublepost]Updated all modem firmware. All older devices received a downgraded firmware back to version on 12.1.1 beta 1 and 2018 iPhone has updated firmware
 
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Gregnyrfan

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Modem Firmware went down from 5.32.00 on iOS 12.1.1 B3 to 5.30.00 on iOS 12.1.2 B1. Iphone 6s Plus.
AT&T Carrier 35.0 to 34.5.2
 

WaruiKoohii

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I am fine with whatever. Just feels like we should be moving onto 12.2 at this point instead of a point release, but it is what it is.
It's coming. It's much easier and faster to push out smaller updates than large updates. It doesn't really slow down the development of the larger updates since there are different (but related) engineering teams working on them.
 

uandme72

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Updated kernel
[doublepost=1544472345][/doublepost]Updated all modem firmware. All older devices received a downgraded firmware back to version on 12.1.1 beta 1 and 2018 iPhone has updated firmware
What can be the reasons?
 

WaruiKoohii

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Likely 12.1.2 was being developed prior to the release of 12.1.1, and didn’t include the last fixes for some reason.
This, or there may have been issues identified in the shipped modem firmware. This isn't the first time that modem firmware and carrier settings have been reverted for a beta 1.
 

gwhizkids

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I am fine with whatever. Just feels like we should be moving onto 12.2 at this point instead of a point release, but it is what it is.
If I had to guess, I'd say that this is going to be an unusual year overall. I think they are laying the groundwork for what will likely be an epic release with iOS 13. So I don't know that we'll see the same feature-rich releases during the year that we have seen in earlier major releases.
 
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